1 00:00:04,519 --> 00:00:02,210 got the Hollis on with us from got an 2 00:00:06,200 --> 00:00:04,529 excellent guest in Tim Schwartz who runs 3 00:00:08,089 --> 00:00:06,210 conspiracy Journal and everybody out 4 00:00:09,890 --> 00:00:08,099 there in the US on a half conspiracy 5 00:00:12,400 --> 00:00:09,900 Journal and we'll discuss that and a 6 00:00:16,820 --> 00:00:12,410 little bit but first a few news stories 7 00:00:20,210 --> 00:00:16,830 we've got well one of my favorite topics 8 00:00:24,769 --> 00:00:20,220 is dogs and I know that's no big 9 00:00:27,650 --> 00:00:24,779 surprise to Heidi but there's a there's 10 00:00:31,429 --> 00:00:27,660 a post it's a Catholic post mystic post 11 00:00:33,680 --> 00:00:31,439 it's called on Facebook and it's pretty 12 00:00:35,389 --> 00:00:33,690 big and they have one story here and the 13 00:00:39,799 --> 00:00:35,399 story is of the highlighted part of the 14 00:00:43,580 --> 00:00:39,809 story is why dogs are hated by the devil 15 00:00:46,549 --> 00:00:43,590 and demons and these are people that are 16 00:00:50,060 --> 00:00:46,559 you know exorcists and people that are 17 00:00:52,430 --> 00:00:50,070 you know basically you know like seers 18 00:00:55,040 --> 00:00:52,440 well of the apparitions Virgin Mary and 19 00:00:56,810 --> 00:00:55,050 all that and what Adam asked to his dogs 20 00:00:58,639 --> 00:00:56,820 are just the closest to the most helpful 21 00:01:01,580 --> 00:00:58,649 animal to mankind and of course the 22 00:01:04,119 --> 00:01:01,590 devil was ill disposed to us and they 23 00:01:06,679 --> 00:01:04,129 actually are considered to be hated by 24 00:01:09,170 --> 00:01:06,689 by the devil so I mean I guess it just 25 00:01:11,149 --> 00:01:09,180 shows how good dogs are Heidi well it 26 00:01:13,010 --> 00:01:11,159 goes you know it explains a lot too when 27 00:01:15,499 --> 00:01:13,020 you watch these paranormal shows like 28 00:01:17,450 --> 00:01:15,509 the dog was killed unexpectedly you know 29 00:01:20,210 --> 00:01:17,460 type of things like whoo you know that's 30 00:01:23,749 --> 00:01:20,220 that's true it does happen I guess cuz 31 00:01:27,320 --> 00:01:23,759 they crawl out and they spot him I guess 32 00:01:28,940 --> 00:01:27,330 so I guess so but in any case huh of 33 00:01:31,130 --> 00:01:28,950 course I don't know we all may not know 34 00:01:32,690 --> 00:01:31,140 this but I cut all up with a mud every 35 00:01:35,749 --> 00:01:32,700 time I do the show what she's really 36 00:01:38,120 --> 00:01:35,759 good Heidi she he's not she's not the 37 00:01:39,740 --> 00:01:38,130 best listen her cuz she is usually 38 00:01:43,460 --> 00:01:39,750 snoring but after the first ten minutes 39 00:01:46,880 --> 00:01:43,470 but she's interrupted a few times with a 40 00:01:48,289 --> 00:01:46,890 fit I remember well well without there's 41 00:01:50,749 --> 00:01:48,299 two of them they sometimes with getting 42 00:01:52,639 --> 00:01:50,759 puzzles yes yeah that's what I've heard 43 00:01:54,319 --> 00:01:52,649 now they'll do that they'll get jealous 44 00:01:55,580 --> 00:01:54,329 of each other than one else dear one 45 00:01:57,080 --> 00:01:55,590 well stare at the other and they'll 46 00:01:59,780 --> 00:01:57,090 start fighting on top of me now that 47 00:02:02,450 --> 00:01:59,790 does make for an exciting radio show but 48 00:02:04,880 --> 00:02:02,460 but usually it's just the black one and 49 00:02:06,980 --> 00:02:04,890 she just cuddles up like a little bug 50 00:02:07,730 --> 00:02:06,990 that's about it and that's what she's 51 00:02:10,639 --> 00:02:07,740 doing right now 52 00:02:13,360 --> 00:02:10,649 but also we've got another story well 53 00:02:16,180 --> 00:02:13,370 two things Catholic is that 54 00:02:19,420 --> 00:02:16,190 they're having in Spring Texas in 55 00:02:21,580 --> 00:02:19,430 Houston Texas and also in Philadelphia 56 00:02:24,699 --> 00:02:21,590 statues of the Virgin Mary that are 57 00:02:29,710 --> 00:02:24,709 exerting holy oil salt and and other 58 00:02:35,229 --> 00:02:29,720 issues like that and and this was as of 59 00:02:36,490 --> 00:02:35,239 September 2017 and it's ongoing and and 60 00:02:39,250 --> 00:02:36,500 I don't know that I've ever told you 61 00:02:42,309 --> 00:02:39,260 this story but this is back you know 62 00:02:43,600 --> 00:02:42,319 thousands of years ago yeah when I was 63 00:02:47,350 --> 00:02:43,610 living in the Eastern Shore of Maryland 64 00:02:49,539 --> 00:02:47,360 and there was a it wasn't very far up to 65 00:02:52,120 --> 00:02:49,549 Wilmington Delaware about 40 miles but 66 00:02:55,089 --> 00:02:52,130 out there I've read about actually in 67 00:02:57,130 --> 00:02:55,099 the National Enquirer a story of dynasty 68 00:03:00,729 --> 00:02:57,140 a statue of Jesus that was in an 69 00:03:02,020 --> 00:03:00,739 Episcopal Church and I said well I'll 70 00:03:06,479 --> 00:03:02,030 just drive up you know I had an off day 71 00:03:08,740 --> 00:03:06,489 so I just drove up there to see and and 72 00:03:10,150 --> 00:03:08,750 it was you know if you remember the old 73 00:03:11,530 --> 00:03:10,160 Rocky movies remember what the 74 00:03:14,229 --> 00:03:11,540 neighborhoods like look like you know 75 00:03:15,910 --> 00:03:14,239 like row houses and beat-up-looking area 76 00:03:18,039 --> 00:03:15,920 kind of downtrodden each looking area 77 00:03:20,770 --> 00:03:18,049 and that that's what that's what this 78 00:03:23,710 --> 00:03:20,780 neighborhood look like and I went up 79 00:03:26,710 --> 00:03:23,720 there and I I you know I interviewed the 80 00:03:28,930 --> 00:03:26,720 priest and he said yeah it's no no 81 00:03:31,890 --> 00:03:28,940 kidding and he showed me the statute had 82 00:03:35,530 --> 00:03:31,900 dried blood on it and all this stuff and 83 00:03:36,759 --> 00:03:35,540 I don't and I don't think he was lying I 84 00:03:38,890 --> 00:03:36,769 really don't because you're talking 85 00:03:40,270 --> 00:03:38,900 about a downtrodden place if they could 86 00:03:43,569 --> 00:03:40,280 knock together a couple bucks they 87 00:03:45,309 --> 00:03:43,579 weren't doing it that way and in the 88 00:03:50,159 --> 00:03:45,319 manner I approached him I don't think he 89 00:03:54,940 --> 00:03:52,390 especially not in those days like a 90 00:03:56,550 --> 00:03:54,950 Dutch Press 500 pounds I mean you know 91 00:03:59,589 --> 00:03:56,560 [Music] 92 00:04:03,309 --> 00:03:59,599 but but what I'm saying is these things 93 00:04:05,589 --> 00:04:03,319 are real and you reported many times of 94 00:04:07,809 --> 00:04:05,599 Paul II know who's been a guest on the 95 00:04:12,550 --> 00:04:07,819 show many times he's seen these things 96 00:04:13,990 --> 00:04:12,560 and I think we need reinforcements like 97 00:04:16,390 --> 00:04:14,000 that because there's enough misery in 98 00:04:20,640 --> 00:04:16,400 the world and disappointments everything 99 00:04:23,589 --> 00:04:20,650 else and we need some hope out there I 100 00:04:27,220 --> 00:04:23,599 swear I gotta tell you I got an email 101 00:04:33,160 --> 00:04:27,230 today and the title of the email said 102 00:04:36,640 --> 00:04:33,170 exposing the hoax of Christianity I 103 00:04:38,020 --> 00:04:36,650 posted it on my Facebook page exposing 104 00:04:40,210 --> 00:04:38,030 the hoax of Christianity then when you 105 00:04:44,170 --> 00:04:40,220 open the emails where you see Jesus was 106 00:04:47,080 --> 00:04:44,180 a Buddhist monk and et contact d-did it 107 00:04:48,790 --> 00:04:47,090 was from exile politics I'm like you 108 00:04:51,100 --> 00:04:48,800 know what I know what's up prepared I 109 00:04:53,080 --> 00:04:51,110 mean Christians get beat up enough I 110 00:04:55,840 --> 00:04:53,090 responded to this email and I'm like 111 00:04:58,030 --> 00:04:55,850 look you know on the on the cartoons 112 00:05:00,160 --> 00:04:58,040 Family Guy in South Park you know Jesus 113 00:05:02,530 --> 00:05:00,170 is sleeping around doing drugs I'm like 114 00:05:04,750 --> 00:05:02,540 you know just leave Christianity alone 115 00:05:07,150 --> 00:05:04,760 I'm like you you won't call Judaism a 116 00:05:09,490 --> 00:05:07,160 hoax you won't call Islam a hoax but 117 00:05:13,230 --> 00:05:09,500 you'll bet that kind of Christians 118 00:05:16,720 --> 00:05:13,240 because we don't fight back and I'm just 119 00:05:19,420 --> 00:05:16,730 oh my gosh I'm so tired of it it's like 120 00:05:22,120 --> 00:05:19,430 you know what stop already it's not 121 00:05:23,740 --> 00:05:22,130 acceptable we don't like it you know 122 00:05:25,330 --> 00:05:23,750 just because we're not gonna go and 123 00:05:27,070 --> 00:05:25,340 threaten your life overdoing it 124 00:05:31,110 --> 00:05:27,080 have some respect though it's like they 125 00:05:33,820 --> 00:05:31,120 did it for hype and it's like you know 126 00:05:35,860 --> 00:05:33,830 yeah and it's like well it's for the BBC 127 00:05:39,670 --> 00:05:35,870 documentary Jesus was a Buddhist monk 128 00:05:41,680 --> 00:05:39,680 well you put hoax in your email that was 129 00:05:43,870 --> 00:05:41,690 to get attention it's for a webinar that 130 00:05:45,550 --> 00:05:43,880 they're doing for Exopolitics I'm like 131 00:05:47,530 --> 00:05:45,560 you know for the argument for a very 132 00:05:50,710 --> 00:05:47,540 long time that you know Jews an alien 133 00:05:52,930 --> 00:05:50,720 whatever but don't don't disregard that 134 00:06:01,140 --> 00:05:52,940 the top democracies in the world were 135 00:06:06,190 --> 00:06:01,150 built on Christian loving people also 136 00:06:08,200 --> 00:06:06,200 also all the well you know all the bys 137 00:06:11,290 --> 00:06:08,210 Islam is getting you know with 138 00:06:12,820 --> 00:06:11,300 pedophilia and all that and you know but 139 00:06:14,890 --> 00:06:12,830 if Christians did it they'd be hung from 140 00:06:16,690 --> 00:06:14,900 the lamppost you know and I'm not in 141 00:06:20,920 --> 00:06:16,700 favor of it in any case but I'm just 142 00:06:22,450 --> 00:06:20,930 saying that it you know Western culture 143 00:06:25,060 --> 00:06:22,460 was like you're saying based on 144 00:06:29,140 --> 00:06:25,070 Christianity it wasn't based on some you 145 00:06:32,940 --> 00:06:29,150 know anything else to keep bashing and 146 00:06:37,230 --> 00:06:32,950 putting it down I'm like then move out I 147 00:06:39,340 --> 00:06:37,240 know it's sad that they would use 148 00:06:41,050 --> 00:06:39,350 Christianity as a stepping stone for a 149 00:06:44,110 --> 00:06:41,060 little publicity but that's very 150 00:06:46,780 --> 00:06:44,120 all the time it's gummy it's gummy but 151 00:06:48,340 --> 00:06:46,790 it's very Colin it is oh you know when I 152 00:06:50,230 --> 00:06:48,350 posted it on Facebook people just 153 00:06:52,150 --> 00:06:50,240 thought it was you know let's jump on 154 00:06:55,390 --> 00:06:52,160 the bandwagon of it I'm like what you 155 00:06:57,430 --> 00:06:55,400 know Buddhism I don't insult them I 156 00:07:00,390 --> 00:06:57,440 don't call you guys a hoax you know just 157 00:07:03,640 --> 00:07:00,400 have respect it's like enough is enough 158 00:07:05,500 --> 00:07:03,650 well it is always a safe game kicked 159 00:07:07,180 --> 00:07:05,510 well what did I hate to say this hottie 160 00:07:10,240 --> 00:07:07,190 but I must say it that yeah I mean it 161 00:07:15,460 --> 00:07:10,250 yeah there's a lack of testosterone in 162 00:07:19,300 --> 00:07:15,470 in Western society I mean I mean in my 163 00:07:22,810 --> 00:07:19,310 day you would snap their necks okay but 164 00:07:24,760 --> 00:07:22,820 now it's like oh yes step all over me 165 00:07:27,100 --> 00:07:24,770 and and you know rub your feet in my 166 00:07:30,070 --> 00:07:27,110 face you know I mean it just wasn't that 167 00:07:37,000 --> 00:07:30,080 way I wasn't raised that way yeah yeah 168 00:07:38,950 --> 00:07:37,010 and and that is why 22-year Army Ranger 169 00:07:41,110 --> 00:07:38,960 Master Sergeant said I was the best neck 170 00:07:42,969 --> 00:07:41,120 snap breed seen in 22 years in the Army 171 00:07:46,029 --> 00:07:42,979 and he was a technical sergeant at West 172 00:07:48,460 --> 00:07:46,039 Point that's a whole other issue but I 173 00:07:56,400 --> 00:07:48,470 mean what I'm saying is it seems okay to 174 00:07:59,140 --> 00:07:56,410 rub feces in our noses your self-respect 175 00:08:01,870 --> 00:07:59,150 going all the way around it's like you 176 00:08:06,400 --> 00:08:01,880 know I try my best it's like can you try 177 00:08:08,950 --> 00:08:06,410 a little harder don't go for the well in 178 00:08:10,600 --> 00:08:08,960 any case on the upside though the 179 00:08:15,219 --> 00:08:10,610 Philadelphia Eagles won the Superbowl 180 00:08:18,460 --> 00:08:15,229 and yes at least there are some good 181 00:08:21,740 --> 00:08:18,470 things let's go to our break and we'll 182 00:08:23,090 --> 00:08:21,750 be right back with Tim Schwartz will be 183 00:08:26,510 --> 00:08:23,100 [Music] 184 00:08:29,730 --> 00:08:26,520 but since warts in the Heidi Hollis and 185 00:08:31,680 --> 00:08:29,740 well we we've had some spirited off air 186 00:08:39,150 --> 00:08:31,690 cut discussions but I guess I can't get 187 00:08:41,400 --> 00:08:39,160 into them first well that's alright 188 00:08:46,140 --> 00:08:41,410 roller hi Heidi be afraid how he's 189 00:08:50,820 --> 00:08:46,150 always afraid of them monkeys yeah I bet 190 00:08:53,250 --> 00:08:50,830 you are but but no on the upside Tim 191 00:08:56,760 --> 00:08:53,260 we've had a lot of conspiracies going on 192 00:09:00,570 --> 00:08:56,770 lately and I guess you probably got a 193 00:09:02,400 --> 00:09:00,580 lot of coverage of that UFO semi 194 00:09:08,190 --> 00:09:02,410 disclosure from that ESPA note as 195 00:09:10,830 --> 00:09:08,200 Elizondo guide inure yeah but you know 196 00:09:13,920 --> 00:09:10,840 you have to remember it's just really 197 00:09:16,230 --> 00:09:13,930 kind of more the same i mean we've heard 198 00:09:21,750 --> 00:09:16,240 the same kind of stuff time and time 199 00:09:24,300 --> 00:09:21,760 again you know this time though Leslie 200 00:09:28,740 --> 00:09:24,310 Kean was able to get the New York Times 201 00:09:31,170 --> 00:09:28,750 to publish this story which I mean that 202 00:09:36,120 --> 00:09:31,180 yeah I mean it said that that was that 203 00:09:39,060 --> 00:09:36,130 was a pretty major coup because for 204 00:09:45,750 --> 00:09:39,070 years the mainstream press has really 205 00:09:48,450 --> 00:09:45,760 shied away from decent UFO coverage I 206 00:09:50,760 --> 00:09:48,460 mean yeah sure they're all too willing 207 00:09:52,020 --> 00:09:50,770 yeah it's kind of like what you were 208 00:09:55,500 --> 00:09:52,030 talking before they're all too willing 209 00:10:00,120 --> 00:09:55,510 to make jokes about it and you know poke 210 00:10:03,030 --> 00:10:00,130 fun and you know basically just paint 211 00:10:06,270 --> 00:10:03,040 people who have these kinds of 212 00:10:10,320 --> 00:10:06,280 experiences as you know redneck John 213 00:10:13,790 --> 00:10:10,330 that drunk yokels so but but now you're 214 00:10:16,770 --> 00:10:13,800 dealing with Navy pilots and other 215 00:10:18,900 --> 00:10:16,780 military personnel who have had these 216 00:10:20,760 --> 00:10:18,910 experiences and and we're you know duly 217 00:10:24,420 --> 00:10:20,770 recorded and it's a little bit more 218 00:10:27,480 --> 00:10:24,430 difficult to discredit them even though 219 00:10:32,290 --> 00:10:27,490 a lot of people you know have done so 220 00:10:37,200 --> 00:10:32,300 since this initial article came out 221 00:10:39,880 --> 00:10:37,210 but it's like I said before I mean it's 222 00:10:42,310 --> 00:10:39,890 it's hot for a while the story's hot for 223 00:10:45,490 --> 00:10:42,320 a while then pretty soon it'll it'll go 224 00:10:47,350 --> 00:10:45,500 back into you know the back into the 225 00:10:50,080 --> 00:10:47,360 corner again and everybody will be 226 00:10:52,480 --> 00:10:50,090 paying again you know what's on 227 00:10:54,370 --> 00:10:52,490 television you don't think this was a 228 00:11:02,010 --> 00:10:54,380 low-key way of making official 229 00:11:05,530 --> 00:11:02,020 disclosure then kind of no probably not 230 00:11:13,720 --> 00:11:05,540 because official disclosure has been 231 00:11:15,520 --> 00:11:13,730 going on for years well except for the 232 00:11:17,740 --> 00:11:15,530 fact that nobody is ever going to 233 00:11:19,570 --> 00:11:17,750 acknowledge that they don't know what's 234 00:11:23,230 --> 00:11:19,580 going on and they have no control over 235 00:11:25,720 --> 00:11:23,240 it well you know that Elizondo that 236 00:11:27,220 --> 00:11:25,730 lewis Elizondo went on CNN and I was 237 00:11:29,320 --> 00:11:27,230 surprised a lot of people who did not 238 00:11:31,690 --> 00:11:29,330 see this but he when he was talking they 239 00:11:34,480 --> 00:11:31,700 said so what's the conclusion and he 240 00:11:39,330 --> 00:11:34,490 said well we're not alone I mean that 241 00:11:45,160 --> 00:11:42,880 we are not alone I'm like you know it's 242 00:11:47,110 --> 00:11:45,170 just it blows my mind that they would 243 00:11:49,120 --> 00:11:47,120 step forward and say anything you know 244 00:11:50,860 --> 00:11:49,130 as far as their budget was concerned 245 00:11:53,440 --> 00:11:50,870 even but it's like we all know they've 246 00:11:55,720 --> 00:11:53,450 been doing this for ever but it's just 247 00:11:57,430 --> 00:11:55,730 this little teaser it's like how I don't 248 00:11:58,840 --> 00:11:57,440 get I don't give them a lot of respect 249 00:12:00,490 --> 00:11:58,850 for it because it's like are you kidding 250 00:12:03,280 --> 00:12:00,500 me you know many people have lost their 251 00:12:06,220 --> 00:12:03,290 families their minds their lives because 252 00:12:08,350 --> 00:12:06,230 of their harassment by alien beings or 253 00:12:11,290 --> 00:12:08,360 having seen UFOs and they have been 254 00:12:12,820 --> 00:12:11,300 absolutely ostracized for speaking on it 255 00:12:14,230 --> 00:12:12,830 you know and then they have the men in 256 00:12:16,090 --> 00:12:14,240 black come and threaten their lives you 257 00:12:17,860 --> 00:12:16,100 know it's like and and you're gonna sit 258 00:12:18,940 --> 00:12:17,870 there and giggle about five years that 259 00:12:20,650 --> 00:12:18,950 you know we've been looking into this 260 00:12:24,130 --> 00:12:20,660 with 22 million dollars they have some 261 00:12:26,170 --> 00:12:24,140 nerve well and and 22 million dollars 262 00:12:31,300 --> 00:12:26,180 I'm sorry that's just you know that's a 263 00:12:34,510 --> 00:12:31,310 drop in the beer do you know how much 264 00:12:37,090 --> 00:12:34,520 that a lot of these congressmen have 265 00:12:39,060 --> 00:12:37,100 have paid their mistresses off you know 266 00:12:48,680 --> 00:12:39,070 so they don't reveal it to the more than 267 00:12:52,560 --> 00:12:51,180 you made a good you made a good point 268 00:12:54,990 --> 00:12:52,570 though when you talked about you know 269 00:12:57,150 --> 00:12:55,000 when you said that he said I was he and 270 00:13:01,320 --> 00:12:57,160 then that we're not alone he didn't he 271 00:13:03,210 --> 00:13:01,330 didn't say though that the 272 00:13:05,550 --> 00:13:03,220 extraterrestrials are here or you know 273 00:13:07,320 --> 00:13:05,560 the little little great mem for Mars 274 00:13:10,920 --> 00:13:07,330 easy said with it we're not alone and 275 00:13:13,320 --> 00:13:10,930 see and that's that still the the big 276 00:13:16,680 --> 00:13:13,330 mystery on just you know okay we're not 277 00:13:25,910 --> 00:13:16,690 alone so what's what's here in the room 278 00:13:29,940 --> 00:13:28,530 didn't believe this just might I mean 279 00:13:31,410 --> 00:13:29,950 this is not like I don't have any real 280 00:13:33,720 --> 00:13:31,420 answers as far as it's one two three 281 00:13:35,960 --> 00:13:33,730 four but I do believe there's a 282 00:13:39,450 --> 00:13:35,970 multi-dimensional aspect to our 283 00:13:41,100 --> 00:13:39,460 existence and you know of course you 284 00:13:44,130 --> 00:13:41,110 know we know there's ghosts and angels 285 00:13:45,510 --> 00:13:44,140 and demons and all this stuff but I 286 00:13:48,510 --> 00:13:45,520 think there may be submitter marry 287 00:13:51,360 --> 00:13:48,520 either intermediary creatures that are 288 00:13:53,370 --> 00:13:51,370 just maybe somewhat benign but they who 289 00:13:55,580 --> 00:13:53,380 knows maybe this Bigfoot thing is an off 290 00:13:59,760 --> 00:13:55,590 and on again bleed over I don't know 291 00:14:02,010 --> 00:13:59,770 well you talked about Paul you know and 292 00:14:04,320 --> 00:14:02,020 that's that's one of the things that 293 00:14:06,030 --> 00:14:04,330 that we've talked about with him before 294 00:14:10,290 --> 00:14:06,040 oh yeah that's right 295 00:14:12,210 --> 00:14:10,300 you know that all all of the things that 296 00:14:14,250 --> 00:14:12,220 you just talked about and you know 297 00:14:17,010 --> 00:14:14,260 including UFOs I mean yeah sure 298 00:14:19,200 --> 00:14:17,020 there may be an aspect of UFOs that they 299 00:14:22,200 --> 00:14:19,210 are nuts about physical spaceships from 300 00:14:25,370 --> 00:14:22,210 other planets but there is a lot of very 301 00:14:32,400 --> 00:14:25,380 high strangeness with a lot of these 302 00:14:34,770 --> 00:14:32,410 these cases that are really beyond we 303 00:14:37,350 --> 00:14:34,780 can't even ask the right questions 304 00:14:38,700 --> 00:14:37,360 that's how that's how strange this yeah 305 00:14:40,860 --> 00:14:38,710 you don't have enough background he 306 00:14:43,280 --> 00:14:40,870 earned it really grasp of it to ask the 307 00:14:45,630 --> 00:14:43,290 right questions but let me say also guys 308 00:14:48,150 --> 00:14:45,640 enlisting listening to his conspiracy 309 00:14:52,110 --> 00:14:48,160 Journal is a weekly newsletter it comes 310 00:14:54,780 --> 00:14:52,120 out Sundays almost variably and Tim has 311 00:14:55,830 --> 00:14:54,790 got two or three hundred reporters that 312 00:14:57,510 --> 00:14:55,840 are born into him from 313 00:15:00,860 --> 00:14:57,520 the world on all kinds of fascinating 314 00:15:04,950 --> 00:15:00,870 topics it is free guys you'd have to be 315 00:15:07,050 --> 00:15:04,960 relatively dull not to want it so go to 316 00:15:09,480 --> 00:15:07,060 conspiracy journal comm and sign up like 317 00:15:12,690 --> 00:15:09,490 right away I mean it's crazy not to do 318 00:15:15,300 --> 00:15:12,700 this yeah 319 00:15:18,810 --> 00:15:15,310 not be interested in stuff I think it's 320 00:15:20,460 --> 00:15:18,820 just that simple and I do I really 321 00:15:22,740 --> 00:15:20,470 appreciate you know all the stuff that 322 00:15:25,560 --> 00:15:22,750 people send me every day that they that 323 00:15:27,780 --> 00:15:25,570 they run across you know because really 324 00:15:30,180 --> 00:15:27,790 without these you know without my 325 00:15:32,490 --> 00:15:30,190 friends without my stringers it gets 326 00:15:34,260 --> 00:15:32,500 very CJ will be nothing it really 327 00:15:35,880 --> 00:15:34,270 wouldn't because I mean the people will 328 00:15:40,100 --> 00:15:35,890 run across stuff sometimes I'm just like 329 00:15:45,120 --> 00:15:42,780 marvelous stuff it's kind of neat to 330 00:15:47,370 --> 00:15:45,130 have an outlet to you know for anything 331 00:15:49,050 --> 00:15:47,380 that you come across or that pops up 332 00:15:50,970 --> 00:15:49,060 that you're like oh my gosh I think I 333 00:15:52,920 --> 00:15:50,980 couldn't connect these dots and to have 334 00:15:56,340 --> 00:15:52,930 someone like you to go to and say what 335 00:16:00,030 --> 00:15:56,350 do you think can you post this oh yeah 336 00:16:02,090 --> 00:16:00,040 exactly exactly really you know there's 337 00:16:05,370 --> 00:16:02,100 a lot of stuff to that I mean it's just 338 00:16:13,740 --> 00:16:05,380 just kind of out there singular he'll 339 00:16:15,990 --> 00:16:13,750 there's so said weird what's one of the 340 00:16:18,810 --> 00:16:16,000 weirdest ones that you've gotten lately 341 00:16:20,610 --> 00:16:18,820 well okay this isn't lately this this 342 00:16:22,340 --> 00:16:20,620 came across a couple of years ago and it 343 00:16:27,210 --> 00:16:22,350 it really has nothing to do with 344 00:16:31,980 --> 00:16:27,220 anything supernatural or like that but 345 00:16:33,990 --> 00:16:31,990 after World War two this village in oh 346 00:16:37,020 --> 00:16:34,000 my gosh like I remember I think it was 347 00:16:40,020 --> 00:16:37,030 hungry where the the men came home from 348 00:16:41,730 --> 00:16:40,030 the war and the wives had been that 349 00:16:44,460 --> 00:16:41,740 making do on their own 350 00:16:47,490 --> 00:16:44,470 all this time and when the men came back 351 00:16:50,070 --> 00:16:47,500 I guess that they were pretty much 352 00:16:52,200 --> 00:16:50,080 drunken louts by this point and the 353 00:16:53,760 --> 00:16:52,210 wives that the wives were like you know 354 00:16:55,550 --> 00:16:53,770 we're not gonna put up with this and 355 00:17:00,300 --> 00:16:55,560 then systematically poisoned them all 356 00:17:04,270 --> 00:17:02,310 yeah i be just like practically the 357 00:17:08,500 --> 00:17:04,280 entire 358 00:17:11,620 --> 00:17:08,510 village men in this village ended up 359 00:17:13,810 --> 00:17:11,630 dying under weird circumstances and then 360 00:17:16,750 --> 00:17:13,820 finally the authorities took notice and 361 00:17:18,670 --> 00:17:16,760 they're you know and they dug up some of 362 00:17:21,430 --> 00:17:18,680 these bodies and they had been poisoned 363 00:17:23,740 --> 00:17:21,440 and finally you know yeah some of the 364 00:17:25,060 --> 00:17:23,750 women confesses like yeah you know we're 365 00:17:27,010 --> 00:17:25,070 not going to put up with that here you 366 00:17:28,240 --> 00:17:27,020 know we took care of ourselves you know 367 00:17:30,190 --> 00:17:28,250 all these years while they were out 368 00:17:32,080 --> 00:17:30,200 fighting the war they came you know came 369 00:17:43,050 --> 00:17:32,090 back and think they could push us around 370 00:17:48,460 --> 00:17:45,670 you know it wasn't exactly you know like 371 00:17:54,510 --> 00:17:48,470 supernatural or conspiracy but it was 372 00:18:03,100 --> 00:18:01,120 favorite ones no you know what tickles 373 00:18:06,370 --> 00:18:03,110 me though and it probably comes across 374 00:18:08,020 --> 00:18:06,380 your desk sometimes but is all with you 375 00:18:10,480 --> 00:18:08,030 know of course everybody's videotaped 376 00:18:14,500 --> 00:18:10,490 doing everything these days I mean bank 377 00:18:18,190 --> 00:18:14,510 tellers ATM machines whatever that a lot 378 00:18:22,480 --> 00:18:18,200 of closed-circuit cameras are picking up 379 00:18:23,920 --> 00:18:22,490 ghostly activity it's tough yes you know 380 00:18:28,990 --> 00:18:23,930 and you have to really have to be 381 00:18:33,010 --> 00:18:29,000 careful with some of these because a lot 382 00:18:34,600 --> 00:18:33,020 of the ones that I have seen that seem 383 00:18:36,880 --> 00:18:34,610 to show you know kind of like what looks 384 00:18:40,860 --> 00:18:36,890 like a misty shape you know floating 385 00:18:43,510 --> 00:18:40,870 across the room it turns out to be a 386 00:18:46,960 --> 00:18:43,520 usually like a spider or a bug that's 387 00:18:49,390 --> 00:18:46,970 right up against the lens and that's you 388 00:18:51,940 --> 00:18:49,400 know because they their legs and stuff 389 00:18:54,640 --> 00:18:51,950 that close to the lens you know there's 390 00:18:57,400 --> 00:18:54,650 no focus they're so completely focus 391 00:18:59,530 --> 00:18:57,410 that they look translucent well Tim some 392 00:19:08,080 --> 00:18:59,540 of us really strongly feel that spiders 393 00:19:11,440 --> 00:19:08,090 have no place on this planet really 394 00:19:16,870 --> 00:19:11,450 buddies with spiders but well yes I can 395 00:19:20,710 --> 00:19:18,880 then on the other hand there has been 396 00:19:23,290 --> 00:19:20,720 you know like you said there's there's 397 00:19:26,170 --> 00:19:23,300 been some really good ones that that 398 00:19:28,570 --> 00:19:26,180 show you know like furniture moving 399 00:19:31,780 --> 00:19:28,580 around you know in an empty building 400 00:19:35,230 --> 00:19:31,790 yeah there's what yeah the one recently 401 00:19:36,880 --> 00:19:35,240 I am in some elementary school that you 402 00:19:40,270 --> 00:19:36,890 know showed like the the locker doors 403 00:19:41,950 --> 00:19:40,280 slamming shots and yeah yeah I think I 404 00:19:43,810 --> 00:19:41,960 saw something like that before not not 405 00:19:48,070 --> 00:19:43,820 recently but a couple years ago it did 406 00:19:50,200 --> 00:19:48,080 yes toward things like that yeah and I 407 00:19:53,950 --> 00:19:50,210 think one of them that's brilliant 408 00:19:57,310 --> 00:19:53,960 strange a source but it's game cameras 409 00:20:00,670 --> 00:19:57,320 oh yeah if they have and they pick up 410 00:20:03,370 --> 00:20:00,680 like Bigfoot and stuff I mean and yes 411 00:20:05,290 --> 00:20:03,380 some pranksters but I mean there's a lot 412 00:20:09,010 --> 00:20:05,300 of game cameras out there Heidi I mean 413 00:20:12,490 --> 00:20:09,020 all kinds of and bizarre stuff goes on 414 00:20:15,640 --> 00:20:12,500 out there yeah I saw something that ran 415 00:20:17,830 --> 00:20:15,650 through a soccer stadium once and it was 416 00:20:22,320 --> 00:20:17,840 moving so fast like it looks like a 417 00:20:25,180 --> 00:20:22,330 shadowy thing and oh yeah what is that 418 00:20:27,550 --> 00:20:25,190 movie moving through the crowd just yeah 419 00:20:30,910 --> 00:20:27,560 it's almost like as like Superman type 420 00:20:33,190 --> 00:20:30,920 speed yes disturbing to look at but 421 00:20:34,090 --> 00:20:33,200 nobody nobody else is noticing it though 422 00:20:37,090 --> 00:20:34,100 nope 423 00:20:40,090 --> 00:20:37,100 sure that was the weird thing about good 424 00:20:42,520 --> 00:20:40,100 you know although the best one I saw was 425 00:20:46,180 --> 00:20:42,530 actually it was in a British Museum and 426 00:20:49,870 --> 00:20:46,190 they had no closed-circuit TV cameras 427 00:20:52,300 --> 00:20:49,880 and why they had one on the balcony I 428 00:20:54,100 --> 00:20:52,310 don't know but they did it was an old 429 00:20:56,440 --> 00:20:54,110 building anyway but what they did is 430 00:20:59,260 --> 00:20:56,450 they had a figure a ghostly kind of 431 00:21:01,780 --> 00:20:59,270 figure appear and medieval kind of garb 432 00:21:04,480 --> 00:21:01,790 and this was actually showed up on 433 00:21:06,550 --> 00:21:04,490 British Museum closed circuit television 434 00:21:07,870 --> 00:21:06,560 a state-owned thing and nobody was 435 00:21:13,570 --> 00:21:07,880 making any money out of it but the idea 436 00:21:16,360 --> 00:21:13,580 was the darn place was haunted that's 437 00:21:19,270 --> 00:21:16,370 weird it was pretty clear - it was the 438 00:21:20,530 --> 00:21:19,280 outside balcony I mean I'm not saying it 439 00:21:21,700 --> 00:21:20,540 could have been a hoax but the British 440 00:21:24,100 --> 00:21:21,710 government's not gonna try to make money 441 00:21:26,290 --> 00:21:24,110 on that without the without the one 442 00:21:28,750 --> 00:21:26,300 where the faker you know like open the 443 00:21:30,640 --> 00:21:28,760 doors and slammed a back shut again 444 00:21:32,680 --> 00:21:30,650 I don't remember the movement part I 445 00:21:34,330 --> 00:21:32,690 just remember I saw the the figure 446 00:21:37,330 --> 00:21:34,340 looked like stir Walter Raleigh in a 447 00:21:41,710 --> 00:21:37,340 picture and the in a kind of a ghostly 448 00:21:44,050 --> 00:21:41,720 misty kind of form and there was there 449 00:21:46,690 --> 00:21:44,060 was wine I think it's been around for at 450 00:21:48,850 --> 00:21:46,700 least five years that it was it was 451 00:21:52,930 --> 00:21:48,860 looking down on a pair of double doors 452 00:21:55,750 --> 00:21:52,940 and it was kind of like almost like an 453 00:21:57,340 --> 00:21:55,760 alleyway type of situation and I can't 454 00:21:59,230 --> 00:21:57,350 remember now if the doors had or had 455 00:22:00,700 --> 00:21:59,240 been propped open or if this figure 456 00:22:04,000 --> 00:22:00,710 opened him but all of a sudden this 457 00:22:07,360 --> 00:22:04,010 figure dressed in like like a monk's 458 00:22:09,250 --> 00:22:07,370 cowl yeah I compared and pulled the 459 00:22:11,140 --> 00:22:09,260 doors shut you know like shut the damn 460 00:22:13,750 --> 00:22:11,150 doors it's cold in here or something 461 00:22:15,520 --> 00:22:13,760 like that and of course you know the the 462 00:22:17,860 --> 00:22:15,530 skeptics were like oh wow you know as 463 00:22:19,330 --> 00:22:17,870 somebody who you know like a reenactor 464 00:22:21,940 --> 00:22:19,340 they're in the you know in this in this 465 00:22:23,320 --> 00:22:21,950 place and of course then the the owner 466 00:22:28,720 --> 00:22:23,330 of it says we don't have it here and 467 00:22:29,980 --> 00:22:28,730 actors in this place this wasn't a 468 00:22:33,430 --> 00:22:29,990 monk's getup though it's just regular 469 00:22:36,160 --> 00:22:33,440 like Sir Walter Raleigh kind of look you 470 00:22:38,020 --> 00:22:36,170 know what I'd come across once and I I'm 471 00:22:40,600 --> 00:22:38,030 wondering if there's others out there 472 00:22:43,020 --> 00:22:40,610 you know how Google Maps drives around 473 00:22:45,550 --> 00:22:43,030 and takes pictures of everything and and 474 00:22:48,940 --> 00:22:45,560 videotapes the entire planet well 475 00:22:51,190 --> 00:22:48,950 somebody in Australia caught a UFO on 476 00:22:53,920 --> 00:22:51,200 one of those I'm like but there's tons 477 00:22:54,550 --> 00:22:53,930 more have you come across Oh stories 478 00:22:58,420 --> 00:22:54,560 like that 479 00:23:03,070 --> 00:22:58,430 oh sure well and there's there's the 480 00:23:04,630 --> 00:23:03,080 ones that are like was it I was I gonna 481 00:23:09,790 --> 00:23:04,640 think of as hell at Google Earth Google 482 00:23:12,720 --> 00:23:09,800 Earth where they've showed what appears 483 00:23:15,820 --> 00:23:12,730 to be you know like disc shaped objects 484 00:23:20,290 --> 00:23:15,830 not on the ground but flying in the air 485 00:23:21,490 --> 00:23:20,300 but the the Google vehicle that travels 486 00:23:22,990 --> 00:23:21,500 the road you got to be careful with 487 00:23:26,380 --> 00:23:23,000 those a lot of times because they'll 488 00:23:28,210 --> 00:23:26,390 shoot what they do is they'll take you 489 00:23:30,220 --> 00:23:28,220 know like single photographs and then 490 00:23:32,650 --> 00:23:30,230 they stitch them together to kind of 491 00:23:36,940 --> 00:23:32,660 give to give that seamless look but 492 00:23:39,550 --> 00:23:36,950 there are sections that they miss and so 493 00:23:41,210 --> 00:23:39,560 when they put them back together again 494 00:23:43,580 --> 00:23:41,220 you'll get some 495 00:23:45,380 --> 00:23:43,590 bizarro things I mean there's there's 496 00:23:48,710 --> 00:23:45,390 like pictures of people on the street 497 00:23:51,980 --> 00:23:48,720 where you'll see like it's basically 498 00:23:54,230 --> 00:23:51,990 just a torso with no legs walking or 499 00:23:56,390 --> 00:23:54,240 there we go there was a Goodman where it 500 00:23:58,190 --> 00:23:56,400 was a cat then it looked like that it 501 00:24:01,010 --> 00:23:58,200 was just walking you know just like a 502 00:24:07,430 --> 00:24:01,020 head walking on two legs oh that's funny 503 00:24:10,460 --> 00:24:07,440 do you know I saw them coming and I and 504 00:24:12,740 --> 00:24:10,470 I waved at them and I am forever frozen 505 00:24:25,970 --> 00:24:12,750 on Google Maps in my car waving it's 506 00:24:30,680 --> 00:24:25,980 hilarious I did a u-turn I'm like waving 507 00:24:32,930 --> 00:24:30,690 in my car guys were coming up to the top 508 00:24:34,730 --> 00:24:32,940 of the half of bottom they are break and 509 00:24:37,930 --> 00:24:34,740 we'll be right back with Tim Schwartz 510 00:24:39,860 --> 00:24:37,940 and Heidi Hollis 511 00:24:41,750 --> 00:24:39,870 what's great to be back with Tim 512 00:24:43,640 --> 00:24:41,760 Schwartz and he's a nice guy from 513 00:24:46,840 --> 00:24:43,650 Indiana we were just talking about all 514 00:24:50,090 --> 00:24:46,850 my evil New York brethren up there and 515 00:24:52,700 --> 00:24:50,100 but now my mother was from Queens and 516 00:24:56,510 --> 00:24:52,710 she was a hard case boy oh you could 517 00:24:58,159 --> 00:24:56,520 break rocks on her but but she's very 518 00:24:59,960 --> 00:24:58,169 sweet though once you got past the 519 00:25:02,570 --> 00:24:59,970 veneer and most New Yorkers are really 520 00:25:09,830 --> 00:25:02,580 they're really okay people they just got 521 00:25:11,779 --> 00:25:09,840 to fight like River Rats there's a guy I 522 00:25:16,130 --> 00:25:11,789 know guys I mean I shouldn't say this on 523 00:25:20,029 --> 00:25:16,140 the air and people think I'm evil but I 524 00:25:21,710 --> 00:25:20,039 want a hundred New York sewer rats sent 525 00:25:23,539 --> 00:25:21,720 to me that I could let loose on this 526 00:25:25,370 --> 00:25:23,549 guy's travel trailer he's living in 527 00:25:29,149 --> 00:25:25,380 because he's such a evil little devil 528 00:25:30,260 --> 00:25:29,159 now am I at and I would just I mean I'm 529 00:25:31,580 --> 00:25:30,270 talking about if you look on the 530 00:25:38,600 --> 00:25:31,590 internet they get to be four and five 531 00:25:40,220 --> 00:25:38,610 pounds high well I don't know they might 532 00:25:44,060 --> 00:25:40,230 have bubonic plague on an ocean water 533 00:25:45,740 --> 00:25:44,070 spout down on but what I'm saying is if 534 00:25:47,240 --> 00:25:45,750 well I mean look if you were in the New 535 00:25:52,730 --> 00:25:47,250 York sewer system it would kind of make 536 00:25:54,780 --> 00:25:52,740 your disposition a little ornery this 537 00:25:56,760 --> 00:25:54,790 guy is just an evil arrogant 538 00:25:59,070 --> 00:25:56,770 devil he's the brother of my business 539 00:26:01,080 --> 00:25:59,080 partner and he had he's living on a 540 00:26:03,390 --> 00:26:01,090 mobile home one of those travel trailers 541 00:26:05,280 --> 00:26:03,400 you know nice one you know ya know a 542 00:26:08,940 --> 00:26:05,290 trout killer and it's on his cousin's 543 00:26:11,940 --> 00:26:08,950 property and it's completely accessible 544 00:26:13,980 --> 00:26:11,950 to rodents I mean I must have had a lot 545 00:26:14,430 --> 00:26:13,990 of youth so it must have not be thank 546 00:26:17,160 --> 00:26:14,440 you 547 00:26:20,130 --> 00:26:17,170 and he has mice and rats and I was 548 00:26:24,620 --> 00:26:20,140 trying to get some real honest [\h__\h] 549 00:26:29,940 --> 00:26:28,290 my gosh maybe I'll be able to work that 550 00:26:30,960 --> 00:26:29,950 out maybe some New Yorker out there that 551 00:26:41,090 --> 00:26:30,970 can get up with me through the 552 00:26:46,290 --> 00:26:43,590 and the weather has been wicked for us 553 00:26:48,540 --> 00:26:46,300 over here Tim I mean we had three storms 554 00:26:51,330 --> 00:26:48,550 in three days by this weekend we're 555 00:26:52,920 --> 00:26:51,340 getting 15 more inches on top of I don't 556 00:26:58,770 --> 00:26:52,930 know what we got out there maybe six 557 00:27:04,020 --> 00:26:58,780 inches I mean it's it's crazy how far is 558 00:27:07,440 --> 00:27:04,030 Tim from Chicago Oh quite a ways Chicago 559 00:27:11,910 --> 00:27:07,450 would be you know in the extreme 560 00:27:16,650 --> 00:27:11,920 northern part of the I mean it's not a 561 00:27:18,180 --> 00:27:16,660 part of Indiana but you go to northern 562 00:27:25,560 --> 00:27:18,190 Indiana and you might as well be in 563 00:27:27,240 --> 00:27:25,570 Chicago yes East Chicago there the 564 00:27:28,950 --> 00:27:27,250 region is you know what they had they 565 00:27:32,100 --> 00:27:28,960 could they call it who they live there 566 00:27:35,100 --> 00:27:32,110 but that that is the extreme northern 567 00:27:38,610 --> 00:27:35,110 part of the state and I'm pretty close 568 00:27:45,740 --> 00:27:38,620 you know to the to the southern end well 569 00:27:50,700 --> 00:27:47,580 to live in Terre Haute 570 00:27:54,690 --> 00:27:50,710 what's where's that in the state about 571 00:27:58,530 --> 00:27:54,700 it's about midway and then right on the 572 00:28:00,780 --> 00:27:58,540 western border with Illinois oh okay and 573 00:28:05,430 --> 00:28:00,790 then we're probably we're probably about 574 00:28:11,009 --> 00:28:05,440 60 60 miles south east 575 00:28:12,409 --> 00:28:11,019 Terre Haute here in the bucolic town of 576 00:28:15,299 --> 00:28:12,419 Jasper 577 00:28:16,919 --> 00:28:15,309 I'm sure it's nice people I remember the 578 00:28:18,299 --> 00:28:16,929 only thing that was funny now this I 579 00:28:20,369 --> 00:28:18,309 shouldn't this is nothing off-color in 580 00:28:21,990 --> 00:28:20,379 it but I used to be a Salesman up in 581 00:28:24,869 --> 00:28:22,000 that area and I believe it or not I'd go 582 00:28:26,369 --> 00:28:24,879 all the way up from Atlanta and because 583 00:28:29,039 --> 00:28:26,379 we founded good selling up there in 584 00:28:31,700 --> 00:28:29,049 Indianapolis and the only strange thing 585 00:28:35,610 --> 00:28:31,710 is they had fat pinup calendars on their 586 00:28:37,830 --> 00:28:35,620 walls I mean in other words most people 587 00:28:39,240 --> 00:28:37,840 have shapely pinup people on the girls 588 00:28:42,180 --> 00:28:39,250 on the cut on the calendars they were 589 00:28:44,249 --> 00:28:42,190 all like big old gals and it was just 590 00:28:49,279 --> 00:28:44,259 and not just one place but half a dozen 591 00:28:52,320 --> 00:28:49,289 you're thinking are you talking about 592 00:29:00,450 --> 00:28:52,330 not so much not so much an Indianapolis 593 00:29:02,610 --> 00:29:00,460 yeah where you visit most yeah I sold 594 00:29:04,889 --> 00:29:02,620 that most well no is it I sold like it 595 00:29:07,169 --> 00:29:04,899 parts departments I sold heavy shipping 596 00:29:09,210 --> 00:29:07,179 tape for people that would send out you 597 00:29:12,210 --> 00:29:09,220 know machine parts and snow sure sure 598 00:29:15,180 --> 00:29:12,220 right and there's a question popping up 599 00:29:17,730 --> 00:29:15,190 in the chat room disclosure advocate is 600 00:29:23,669 --> 00:29:17,740 asking if there's been any notable UFO 601 00:29:26,879 --> 00:29:23,679 cases in Indiana oh yeah it really it 602 00:29:31,080 --> 00:29:26,889 just all depends when you're looking at 603 00:29:33,210 --> 00:29:31,090 I mean Indiana has been pretty much say 604 00:29:39,060 --> 00:29:33,220 kind of a hotbed of activity for a long 605 00:29:42,539 --> 00:29:39,070 time now not so much really in the last 606 00:29:48,029 --> 00:29:42,549 10 years or so it's kind of calmed down 607 00:29:53,310 --> 00:29:48,039 quite a bit but you know we had a lot of 608 00:29:55,350 --> 00:29:53,320 UFO activity in 1973 there was a big UFO 609 00:30:00,060 --> 00:29:55,360 flap that what across the entire country 610 00:30:03,110 --> 00:30:00,070 and Indiana Indiana got got quite a bit 611 00:30:07,320 --> 00:30:03,120 of that there was a really interesting 612 00:30:10,619 --> 00:30:07,330 encounter north of Indianapolis around 613 00:30:14,639 --> 00:30:10,629 the town called gas city you know of all 614 00:30:17,820 --> 00:30:14,649 names where several drivers saw what 615 00:30:19,289 --> 00:30:17,830 looked to be they described him as 616 00:30:24,210 --> 00:30:19,299 little people like children 617 00:30:26,909 --> 00:30:24,220 almost that our rapt they described him 618 00:30:30,419 --> 00:30:26,919 as like they were wrapped in in glowing 619 00:30:31,619 --> 00:30:30,429 material and floating over a fence and 620 00:30:35,430 --> 00:30:31,629 then across the road 621 00:30:36,810 --> 00:30:35,440 so naturally the State Police and the 622 00:30:39,509 --> 00:30:36,820 sheriff they're like okay we got it we 623 00:30:42,749 --> 00:30:39,519 gotta check this out and they went out 624 00:30:45,090 --> 00:30:42,759 there and one of them actually saw these 625 00:30:49,470 --> 00:30:45,100 things they were off the road at this 626 00:30:51,810 --> 00:30:49,480 point and in the forest in a field 627 00:30:53,669 --> 00:30:51,820 heading towards a forest but when the 628 00:30:55,229 --> 00:30:53,679 sheriff got close by these things this 629 00:30:58,349 --> 00:30:55,239 basically went straight up in the air 630 00:31:00,659 --> 00:30:58,359 nobody ever saw nobody ever saw a UFO or 631 00:31:03,299 --> 00:31:00,669 anything that they they did see these 632 00:31:06,299 --> 00:31:03,309 things is kind of like just floating up 633 00:31:08,789 --> 00:31:06,309 into the darkness and then one of the 634 00:31:11,430 --> 00:31:08,799 one of the weird things about this 635 00:31:14,909 --> 00:31:11,440 particular case is that a local 636 00:31:16,680 --> 00:31:14,919 newspaper reporter who had been 637 00:31:19,289 --> 00:31:16,690 listening to all this activity you know 638 00:31:21,359 --> 00:31:19,299 on the police radio he went out to the 639 00:31:25,649 --> 00:31:21,369 same general area he didn't see anything 640 00:31:29,789 --> 00:31:25,659 but he came across on this country road 641 00:31:34,619 --> 00:31:29,799 this line of wild animals you know like 642 00:31:38,369 --> 00:31:34,629 possums raccoons skunks just crossing 643 00:31:41,129 --> 00:31:38,379 the road in a straight line like like a 644 00:31:43,049 --> 00:31:41,139 person well which I mean you know if 645 00:31:45,269 --> 00:31:43,059 you've if you've ever lived out in the 646 00:31:47,519 --> 00:31:45,279 country you know you don't see how these 647 00:31:49,769 --> 00:31:47,529 are all solitary animals you'll see them 648 00:31:53,820 --> 00:31:49,779 by themselves never in a big group 649 00:31:57,840 --> 00:31:53,830 together cross it a road like that yeah 650 00:31:58,799 --> 00:31:57,850 very very high weirdness case Wow you 651 00:32:01,349 --> 00:31:58,809 know I do 652 00:32:05,129 --> 00:32:01,359 UFO headline news now daily here on 653 00:32:07,169 --> 00:32:05,139 inception radio and I see these patterns 654 00:32:08,970 --> 00:32:07,179 with UFO reports now that I have I've 655 00:32:13,169 --> 00:32:08,980 had to read through hundreds of them now 656 00:32:15,330 --> 00:32:13,179 and it's amazing to me how many know 657 00:32:17,909 --> 00:32:15,340 it's like you see a trend of it from the 658 00:32:21,359 --> 00:32:17,919 older reports to more up-to-date reports 659 00:32:24,210 --> 00:32:21,369 and and seeing how the ships change you 660 00:32:26,639 --> 00:32:24,220 know it's like a lot of triangular ships 661 00:32:28,980 --> 00:32:26,649 with a big dome on the bottom now and 662 00:32:30,749 --> 00:32:28,990 I'm like what is going on here yeah it's 663 00:32:32,290 --> 00:32:30,759 just it's amazing to me to see the 664 00:32:34,030 --> 00:32:32,300 trends and how many 665 00:32:35,620 --> 00:32:34,040 people who go out for a smoke or walk 666 00:32:36,730 --> 00:32:35,630 their dog are the ones that are witness 667 00:32:39,280 --> 00:32:36,740 these things 668 00:32:44,380 --> 00:32:39,290 it's just patterns you start to see so 669 00:32:46,030 --> 00:32:44,390 so yeah a lot of black triangles I'm 670 00:32:49,180 --> 00:32:46,040 curious if you've noticed you know 671 00:32:51,520 --> 00:32:49,190 changes in the stories that you get your 672 00:32:53,200 --> 00:32:51,530 way these days because I mean the UFO 673 00:32:55,750 --> 00:32:53,210 reports I mean I cuz I get some that are 674 00:32:57,490 --> 00:32:55,760 you know really old and some that are 675 00:32:59,650 --> 00:32:57,500 you know rather you know it's a day ago 676 00:33:02,860 --> 00:32:59,660 or something and it's it's wild to see 677 00:33:05,050 --> 00:33:02,870 that yeah it's and that's an interesting 678 00:33:12,190 --> 00:33:05,060 point that you that you make Heidi 679 00:33:16,540 --> 00:33:12,200 because it does seem like that the the 680 00:33:21,400 --> 00:33:16,550 shape of whatever these things are do 681 00:33:25,750 --> 00:33:21,410 seem to change with time the 2018 models 682 00:33:28,120 --> 00:33:25,760 now right no see you that's that's a 683 00:33:31,180 --> 00:33:28,130 very good point you go and you look at 684 00:33:36,180 --> 00:33:31,190 some of these cases especially like in 685 00:33:39,340 --> 00:33:36,190 the 1950s that involves some of these 686 00:33:42,370 --> 00:33:39,350 contact these say like you know George 687 00:33:44,290 --> 00:33:42,380 Adamski or Howard manager or some of the 688 00:33:45,880 --> 00:33:44,300 or even you know are even people who 689 00:33:48,010 --> 00:33:45,890 just you know happened to be close by to 690 00:33:50,170 --> 00:33:48,020 take you know took a photograph of 691 00:33:54,070 --> 00:33:50,180 something weird you know the craft that 692 00:33:58,870 --> 00:33:54,080 was being seen and at that time were 693 00:34:02,380 --> 00:33:58,880 very how do I put it they had they they 694 00:34:04,210 --> 00:34:02,390 they look very 1940s 1950s I mean you 695 00:34:07,600 --> 00:34:04,220 could almost see you know like the 696 00:34:09,550 --> 00:34:07,610 rivets are these things they have a they 697 00:34:13,750 --> 00:34:09,560 look like these are these Buicks with 698 00:34:16,060 --> 00:34:13,760 the big fins on the back out almost yeah 699 00:34:19,090 --> 00:34:16,070 they're very you know 700 00:34:21,550 --> 00:34:19,100 and they look an awful lot like what you 701 00:34:23,349 --> 00:34:21,560 would expect a spaceship or a flying 702 00:34:27,899 --> 00:34:23,359 saucer to look at that you would see in 703 00:34:32,800 --> 00:34:27,909 the movies let's see as time progresses 704 00:34:36,639 --> 00:34:32,810 the these these whatever they are they 705 00:34:40,419 --> 00:34:36,649 do seem to take on a different more 706 00:34:42,810 --> 00:34:40,429 modern shapes as as Heidi pointed out 707 00:34:46,570 --> 00:34:42,820 you know that the black triangles are 708 00:34:49,810 --> 00:34:46,580 probably the ones that are the most 709 00:34:53,080 --> 00:34:49,820 predominantly reported now whether or 710 00:34:54,159 --> 00:34:53,090 not this is because if somebody sees 711 00:34:55,899 --> 00:34:54,169 something different 712 00:34:58,930 --> 00:34:55,909 they're disliked I'm not gonna report 713 00:35:01,150 --> 00:34:58,940 that that sounds too crazy but since you 714 00:35:03,310 --> 00:35:01,160 know people have heard more now about 715 00:35:07,450 --> 00:35:03,320 the black triangles was a yeah you know 716 00:35:08,859 --> 00:35:07,460 kind of like the me too situation you 717 00:35:10,990 --> 00:35:08,869 know like oh well you know I was hearing 718 00:35:12,520 --> 00:35:11,000 about people seeing the black triangle I 719 00:35:14,770 --> 00:35:12,530 saw one too 720 00:35:18,220 --> 00:35:14,780 but we still I mean we still get other 721 00:35:19,120 --> 00:35:18,230 kinds of orbs you know like a sphere 722 00:35:24,099 --> 00:35:19,130 types 723 00:35:26,950 --> 00:35:24,109 yes crafts are also very predominant in 724 00:35:29,680 --> 00:35:26,960 in sightings I had a couple the weird 725 00:35:36,040 --> 00:35:29,690 ones even that they talk about the 726 00:35:38,470 --> 00:35:36,050 Jetsons like little bubble little more 727 00:35:42,640 --> 00:35:38,480 recent even and like wow The Jetsons are 728 00:35:43,510 --> 00:35:42,650 a real Dolan Karen Dolan had pictures of 729 00:35:46,000 --> 00:35:43,520 what 730 00:35:47,859 --> 00:35:46,010 well one conference I went to there were 731 00:35:49,660 --> 00:35:47,869 some paintings on the the Pyrenees 732 00:35:52,570 --> 00:35:49,670 Mountains of France that had what looked 733 00:35:54,070 --> 00:35:52,580 exactly like a George Jetson oh yes yeah 734 00:35:55,900 --> 00:35:54,080 and that's what people seem to be 735 00:36:00,030 --> 00:35:55,910 describing yep I know which one you're 736 00:36:04,359 --> 00:36:00,040 speaking of you know Chris O'Brien who 737 00:36:11,349 --> 00:36:04,369 he lives out around the Grand Canyon 738 00:36:13,450 --> 00:36:11,359 area and he was out driving one day 739 00:36:16,570 --> 00:36:13,460 around the office at the Four Corners 740 00:36:18,670 --> 00:36:16,580 area and maybe somewhere around that 741 00:36:22,660 --> 00:36:18,680 general maybe maybe Newman in the 742 00:36:25,390 --> 00:36:22,670 vicinity of New Mexico you know and he 743 00:36:27,280 --> 00:36:25,400 said that he saw this craft kind of like 744 00:36:29,440 --> 00:36:27,290 shoot across the road in front of his 745 00:36:31,420 --> 00:36:29,450 car and that's the way that's one 746 00:36:33,579 --> 00:36:31,430 he described it he said it kind of 747 00:36:37,950 --> 00:36:33,589 looked like the you know better Jetsons 748 00:36:41,349 --> 00:36:37,960 type of vehicle shiny shiny metal with a 749 00:36:44,339 --> 00:36:41,359 glass like dome honors you know in the 750 00:36:50,760 --> 00:36:44,349 end of front so yeah you know people 751 00:36:57,099 --> 00:36:50,770 it's it's you know it's I don't know if 752 00:37:01,359 --> 00:36:57,109 these things because and I've said this 753 00:37:04,120 --> 00:37:01,369 before you know probably not many of 754 00:37:06,010 --> 00:37:04,130 these reports are actual nuts-and-bolts 755 00:37:10,329 --> 00:37:06,020 craft you know there's something else 756 00:37:14,650 --> 00:37:10,339 going on and whether or not people see 757 00:37:19,450 --> 00:37:14,660 these and then their mind puts them into 758 00:37:22,260 --> 00:37:19,460 a familiar configuration I don't know I 759 00:37:27,670 --> 00:37:22,270 don't know if that makes sense or not 760 00:37:33,339 --> 00:37:27,680 but it does seem that whatever is going 761 00:37:36,640 --> 00:37:33,349 on with UFOs they do seem to change with 762 00:37:39,430 --> 00:37:36,650 time their shapes are you know change 763 00:37:42,490 --> 00:37:39,440 with times I mean we don't 1890 in the 764 00:37:45,309 --> 00:37:42,500 1890s weren't they kind of more like yes 765 00:37:51,550 --> 00:37:45,319 cylinder calm yeah what they look they 766 00:37:53,440 --> 00:37:51,560 look like giant durables with like giant 767 00:37:56,530 --> 00:37:53,450 propellers and like a big gondola 768 00:37:59,020 --> 00:37:56,540 underneath and apparently they've got 769 00:38:01,059 --> 00:37:59,030 production going on on other planets 770 00:38:07,089 --> 00:38:01,069 we've got some mercedes-benz and some 771 00:38:10,150 --> 00:38:07,099 Buicks and which one's the old jalopy I 772 00:38:11,470 --> 00:38:10,160 wonder yeah well you know and one of the 773 00:38:14,290 --> 00:38:11,480 one of the things though that has 774 00:38:17,140 --> 00:38:14,300 remained consistent though is that okay 775 00:38:18,910 --> 00:38:17,150 you go back to the like the early 19th 776 00:38:21,520 --> 00:38:18,920 century sightings like you just talked 777 00:38:24,160 --> 00:38:21,530 about Kevin a lot of times the sightings 778 00:38:28,420 --> 00:38:24,170 start with the witnesses being hit with 779 00:38:30,130 --> 00:38:28,430 like a searchlight from the sky and when 780 00:38:32,470 --> 00:38:30,140 the searchlight moves away and then they 781 00:38:34,390 --> 00:38:32,480 can see what's behind the searchlight 782 00:38:37,000 --> 00:38:34,400 then they start describing you know the 783 00:38:37,569 --> 00:38:37,010 the dirigible of the big repellers and 784 00:38:39,730 --> 00:38:37,579 all that 785 00:38:41,550 --> 00:38:39,740 well the same thing continues to happen 786 00:38:43,950 --> 00:38:41,560 today somebody will be out 787 00:38:45,990 --> 00:38:43,960 smoking a cigarette and walking their 788 00:38:47,640 --> 00:38:46,000 dog but them they'll be hit with this 789 00:38:49,740 --> 00:38:47,650 light the sky but then when the light 790 00:38:54,230 --> 00:38:49,750 moves away they'll see say like a black 791 00:38:56,070 --> 00:38:54,240 triangle yeah so you know there are 792 00:39:01,950 --> 00:38:56,080 don't they consider the triangle 793 00:39:04,950 --> 00:39:01,960 sometimes to be a mile long I mean yeah 794 00:39:10,560 --> 00:39:04,960 the the East Coast sightings back in the 795 00:39:12,570 --> 00:39:10,570 early 1980s all up and down from like 796 00:39:14,880 --> 00:39:12,580 New York to Connecticut New Hampshire 797 00:39:17,280 --> 00:39:14,890 places like that I think people were 798 00:39:19,890 --> 00:39:17,290 seeing these things at night and I mean 799 00:39:23,820 --> 00:39:19,900 they said they were huge covered with 800 00:39:25,230 --> 00:39:23,830 lights floating over highways to the 801 00:39:28,110 --> 00:39:25,240 point where people were actually 802 00:39:30,600 --> 00:39:28,120 stopping their cars and getting out to 803 00:39:34,380 --> 00:39:30,610 watch these things float overhead and 804 00:39:38,280 --> 00:39:34,390 they were so they were so big that I 805 00:39:40,680 --> 00:39:38,290 mean people were scared you know they 806 00:39:42,740 --> 00:39:40,690 just think about it you see something 807 00:39:50,780 --> 00:39:42,750 like maybe the size of a battleship 808 00:39:56,460 --> 00:39:53,640 I met these people and I've been those 809 00:40:00,090 --> 00:39:56,470 people and some have been friends that 810 00:40:03,030 --> 00:40:00,100 have this life-altering you know visual 811 00:40:05,820 --> 00:40:03,040 and they have nobody to turn to and our 812 00:40:07,790 --> 00:40:05,830 government has the nerve to talk about 813 00:40:10,740 --> 00:40:07,800 investigating it for just five years 814 00:40:12,960 --> 00:40:10,750 there oh and that's that's a slap in the 815 00:40:15,570 --> 00:40:12,970 face it's like you know how much people 816 00:40:18,060 --> 00:40:15,580 have suffered alone in this you know how 817 00:40:21,240 --> 00:40:18,070 dare you it's it's so that's a real 818 00:40:23,100 --> 00:40:21,250 problem and it's like I don't see why 819 00:40:25,350 --> 00:40:23,110 they need to have the secrecy when 820 00:40:28,320 --> 00:40:25,360 people seem to handle their little 821 00:40:29,880 --> 00:40:28,330 disclosure just fine you know and 822 00:40:31,830 --> 00:40:29,890 weren't even in they're aware of it they 823 00:40:34,590 --> 00:40:31,840 just put their their headphones back and 824 00:40:37,050 --> 00:40:34,600 it said that's cool well you know it's 825 00:40:39,870 --> 00:40:37,060 like I get back to the colonel Alexander 826 00:40:42,300 --> 00:40:39,880 show we had years ago that you know 827 00:40:43,680 --> 00:40:42,310 about the satellite imagery progress and 828 00:40:45,210 --> 00:40:43,690 all that and basically saying you could 829 00:40:47,370 --> 00:40:45,220 read what brand of cigarettes a guy 830 00:40:49,530 --> 00:40:47,380 would be smoking in his pocket or 831 00:40:51,720 --> 00:40:49,540 whatever but the idea of being is if 832 00:40:54,570 --> 00:40:51,730 there's that many UFOs that satellite 833 00:40:55,240 --> 00:40:54,580 imagery is so widespread that they would 834 00:40:57,550 --> 00:40:55,250 pick it up all 835 00:41:06,550 --> 00:40:57,560 the time it would be like ho-hum you 836 00:41:09,640 --> 00:41:06,560 know and yeah but don't forget that 837 00:41:14,520 --> 00:41:09,650 whatever these things are they have the 838 00:41:18,880 --> 00:41:17,200 for want of a better word I mean I don't 839 00:41:21,820 --> 00:41:18,890 you know it's hard to say do they do 840 00:41:24,580 --> 00:41:21,830 they become invisible or is it you know 841 00:41:26,590 --> 00:41:24,590 particle inertia yeah well part of our 842 00:41:28,000 --> 00:41:26,600 propulsion system then there don't 843 00:41:30,460 --> 00:41:28,010 become invisible they just they 844 00:41:32,320 --> 00:41:30,470 disappear here and reappear over there 845 00:41:34,930 --> 00:41:32,330 not something that people constantly 846 00:41:37,150 --> 00:41:34,940 describe you know but see and it Disick 847 00:41:39,160 --> 00:41:37,160 loses the block yeah oh yeah this 848 00:41:40,780 --> 00:41:39,170 inclusive lack triangles as well you 849 00:41:42,130 --> 00:41:40,790 know they'll see a craft it'll be like 850 00:41:44,380 --> 00:41:42,140 directly overhead and all of a sudden 851 00:41:46,930 --> 00:41:44,390 it'll blink out and reappear almost 852 00:41:48,910 --> 00:41:46,940 instantly you know four or five miles 853 00:41:52,300 --> 00:41:48,920 down the road you know over a nearby 854 00:41:54,100 --> 00:41:52,310 hill you know it's amazing to me too and 855 00:41:56,740 --> 00:41:54,110 all these sightings that I'm reading on 856 00:42:00,070 --> 00:41:56,750 is you know the the people will look 857 00:42:02,080 --> 00:42:00,080 away for a second it's as if something 858 00:42:03,760 --> 00:42:02,090 alters because their eyes are not 859 00:42:07,150 --> 00:42:03,770 looking at it any longer and they go to 860 00:42:09,070 --> 00:42:07,160 look back and it's gone it's always it 861 00:42:10,810 --> 00:42:09,080 just happened so often it's if you can't 862 00:42:13,780 --> 00:42:10,820 take your eyes off from it once it's in 863 00:42:16,630 --> 00:42:13,790 sight because it's just it just doesn't 864 00:42:19,450 --> 00:42:16,640 work in and often times Tim do you get 865 00:42:22,630 --> 00:42:19,460 these stories to where people are saying 866 00:42:24,580 --> 00:42:22,640 it I'm I felt like it heard me it 867 00:42:29,290 --> 00:42:24,590 responded to my request do you get those 868 00:42:32,080 --> 00:42:29,300 types of stories - oh yes yes that you 869 00:42:36,670 --> 00:42:32,090 will hear this quite often from people 870 00:42:39,580 --> 00:42:36,680 you are who have this kind of experience 871 00:42:43,420 --> 00:42:39,590 and I mean they'll be seeing something 872 00:42:46,030 --> 00:42:43,430 that appears to be miles away yet the 873 00:42:48,430 --> 00:42:46,040 witness will have this distinct 874 00:42:52,540 --> 00:42:48,440 impression that whatever this thing is 875 00:42:53,680 --> 00:42:52,550 it knows that they are watching them or 876 00:42:56,560 --> 00:42:53,690 know when they're gonna pull their 877 00:43:00,070 --> 00:42:56,570 camera to take a picture yes it's like 878 00:43:03,100 --> 00:43:00,080 gone it's just so crazy I've had three 879 00:43:05,680 --> 00:43:03,110 UFOs respond to requests of mine and 880 00:43:07,420 --> 00:43:05,690 it's bizarre to say that but then I 881 00:43:08,310 --> 00:43:07,430 started hearing more and more people and 882 00:43:11,460 --> 00:43:08,320 now I hear 883 00:43:17,190 --> 00:43:11,470 all the time with the new sure I do city 884 00:43:19,650 --> 00:43:17,200 to the right or something I was in a 885 00:43:21,000 --> 00:43:19,660 group of about six friends and we were 886 00:43:22,800 --> 00:43:21,010 looking up at the night sky we're 887 00:43:25,290 --> 00:43:22,810 somewhere in the East Coast and up in 888 00:43:27,000 --> 00:43:25,300 the mountains and and we saw like what 889 00:43:28,500 --> 00:43:27,010 looked like stars just tons of them 890 00:43:30,030 --> 00:43:28,510 moving but they look like they're 891 00:43:32,220 --> 00:43:30,040 shooting at each other and we're like 892 00:43:35,430 --> 00:43:32,230 guys we're looking at like it looks like 893 00:43:38,340 --> 00:43:35,440 a battle of UFOs and and I said out loud 894 00:43:40,590 --> 00:43:38,350 I said well I've never seen a triangular 895 00:43:42,210 --> 00:43:40,600 UFO I'm like because I've seen a lot of 896 00:43:44,370 --> 00:43:42,220 different ones I'm like since you guys 897 00:43:46,350 --> 00:43:44,380 are there why did you just drop down and 898 00:43:51,900 --> 00:43:46,360 let us have a look you could have 899 00:43:52,950 --> 00:43:51,910 counted to three this big sky came right 900 00:43:56,700 --> 00:43:52,960 over our heads 901 00:43:59,430 --> 00:43:56,710 it came so low we both like I almost hit 902 00:44:02,100 --> 00:43:59,440 the ground we're just like ducked and it 903 00:44:05,820 --> 00:44:02,110 did a little turn and let us have a look 904 00:44:09,300 --> 00:44:05,830 I was like hitting me saying you asked 905 00:44:11,490 --> 00:44:09,310 for this to happen it was crazy it was 906 00:44:15,330 --> 00:44:11,500 crazy I would have been so fascinating I 907 00:44:18,090 --> 00:44:15,340 mean no it was the coolest thing I've 908 00:44:21,060 --> 00:44:18,100 ever seen I couldn't believe as high up 909 00:44:23,250 --> 00:44:21,070 as they were that they heard me and my 910 00:44:26,220 --> 00:44:23,260 camera was right behind me in the car 911 00:44:28,800 --> 00:44:26,230 but I was scared to stand up and hidden 912 00:44:33,120 --> 00:44:28,810 reached in the car to get it cuz it came 913 00:44:35,010 --> 00:44:33,130 so fast it was so fast and so large well 914 00:44:36,900 --> 00:44:35,020 this is this is one of the things that I 915 00:44:39,420 --> 00:44:36,910 had that I point out to people is that 916 00:44:41,570 --> 00:44:39,430 if you are dealing with something that 917 00:44:43,620 --> 00:44:41,580 could be possibly you know 918 00:44:45,600 --> 00:44:43,630 extraterrestrial or a bunch of a bunch 919 00:44:49,260 --> 00:44:45,610 of scientists flying around in a 920 00:44:51,570 --> 00:44:49,270 spaceship you know observing the the 921 00:44:58,140 --> 00:44:51,580 natives on earth why in the world would 922 00:45:00,180 --> 00:44:58,150 they do something like that just said 923 00:45:03,750 --> 00:45:00,190 you know big a triangle let's go down 924 00:45:05,280 --> 00:45:03,760 here let's do it yeah it sounds almost 925 00:45:12,630 --> 00:45:05,290 like something that a bunch of teenagers 926 00:45:13,940 --> 00:45:12,640 would do honestly just the craziest 927 00:45:15,950 --> 00:45:13,950 thing you know it 928 00:45:17,780 --> 00:45:15,960 and I'm reading these stories every day 929 00:45:20,089 --> 00:45:17,790 and the people I mean there's a lot of 930 00:45:21,620 --> 00:45:20,099 them saying hey they heard me doesn't 931 00:45:22,819 --> 00:45:21,630 that kind of doesn't that kind of jive 932 00:45:24,380 --> 00:45:22,829 with that guy up in the state of 933 00:45:26,930 --> 00:45:24,390 Washington whatever his name is the guy 934 00:45:29,240 --> 00:45:26,940 with a ranch I can't think of his name 935 00:45:31,299 --> 00:45:29,250 right off I do you probably know well 936 00:45:34,400 --> 00:45:31,309 they're all those I in Yakima 937 00:45:36,819 --> 00:45:34,410 yeah yeah the guy with the ranch I 938 00:45:39,200 --> 00:45:36,829 forget his name james gilliland is it or 939 00:45:41,450 --> 00:45:39,210 something terrible with names 940 00:45:43,400 --> 00:45:41,460 yeah I think it is but any rate he has 941 00:45:50,839 --> 00:45:43,410 ranch words ostensively they could call 942 00:45:51,890 --> 00:45:50,849 up UFOs and that show up there's people 943 00:45:53,750 --> 00:45:51,900 that call themselves 944 00:46:03,859 --> 00:45:53,760 I don't know conjurer's of them or 945 00:46:05,960 --> 00:46:03,869 something I don't know but it's like I 946 00:46:07,460 --> 00:46:05,970 don't think I mean I think we all have 947 00:46:09,650 --> 00:46:07,470 the ability to do it because they're 948 00:46:11,390 --> 00:46:09,660 paying attention to us and it's it's 949 00:46:13,370 --> 00:46:11,400 kind of nerve-wracking but then kind of 950 00:46:15,950 --> 00:46:13,380 cool it kind of lets us know that we 951 00:46:18,319 --> 00:46:15,960 have some kind of tied to them I mean 952 00:46:20,000 --> 00:46:18,329 what would have been some of the more 953 00:46:21,920 --> 00:46:20,010 stranger stories that you've heard in 954 00:46:26,440 --> 00:46:21,930 regards to some of these sightings that 955 00:46:30,260 --> 00:46:26,450 are coming your way well you know it's 956 00:46:31,760 --> 00:46:30,270 this is something that you that we 957 00:46:36,230 --> 00:46:31,770 talked about just just a couple of 958 00:46:39,950 --> 00:46:36,240 minutes ago about how you have to keep 959 00:46:42,039 --> 00:46:39,960 your eyes on these things if you look 960 00:46:45,980 --> 00:46:42,049 away though just they'll disappear and 961 00:46:50,569 --> 00:46:45,990 I've been doing quite a bit of research 962 00:46:52,370 --> 00:46:50,579 recently on people who have seen for one 963 00:46:56,000 --> 00:46:52,380 of a better word you know like weird 964 00:46:58,190 --> 00:46:56,010 creatures or monsters or just you know 965 00:47:00,559 --> 00:46:58,200 you know our little Slenderman or hat 966 00:47:04,339 --> 00:47:00,569 man or you know shadow man or just other 967 00:47:07,160 --> 00:47:04,349 kinds of weird things and one of the 968 00:47:10,400 --> 00:47:07,170 things that that has stood out to me in 969 00:47:14,960 --> 00:47:10,410 my research on this is that a lot of 970 00:47:18,140 --> 00:47:14,970 times when somebody will see something 971 00:47:20,960 --> 00:47:18,150 like this and usually it's like you know 972 00:47:25,490 --> 00:47:20,970 just just one creature or was it or 973 00:47:27,030 --> 00:47:25,500 whatever one that whatever this thing 974 00:47:30,150 --> 00:47:27,040 then notices 975 00:47:36,300 --> 00:47:30,160 that it's being looked at it looks 976 00:47:40,620 --> 00:47:36,310 shocked like it is like it is surprised 977 00:47:44,460 --> 00:47:40,630 that somebody can see it oh I have run 978 00:47:48,150 --> 00:47:44,470 across this time and time again which 979 00:47:51,720 --> 00:47:48,160 makes me think do these are these things 980 00:47:54,960 --> 00:47:51,730 here all the time and most of us just 981 00:47:57,480 --> 00:47:54,970 can't see them mmm and every once in a 982 00:48:00,090 --> 00:47:57,490 while you get somebody who either has 983 00:48:02,250 --> 00:48:00,100 that you know that shining so to speak 984 00:48:05,010 --> 00:48:02,260 or maybe just isn't that you know in the 985 00:48:11,640 --> 00:48:05,020 right place at the right time and is 986 00:48:14,190 --> 00:48:11,650 able to see one of these things I just I 987 00:48:18,180 --> 00:48:14,200 just read I just read a story yesterday 988 00:48:20,430 --> 00:48:18,190 where this this girl was sitting on a on 989 00:48:22,380 --> 00:48:20,440 a riverbank and on the other side of the 990 00:48:25,350 --> 00:48:22,390 river was a father and a couple of kids 991 00:48:28,050 --> 00:48:25,360 who were walking towards towards the 992 00:48:30,510 --> 00:48:28,060 river they are in her direction and she 993 00:48:35,520 --> 00:48:30,520 said all of a sudden from the water this 994 00:48:38,550 --> 00:48:35,530 this humanoid like thing came out and 995 00:48:41,370 --> 00:48:38,560 was walking towards these kids she said 996 00:48:44,340 --> 00:48:41,380 it had long cut a greasy black hair 997 00:48:48,690 --> 00:48:44,350 white skin and like a great big mouth 998 00:48:52,200 --> 00:48:48,700 full of sharp serrated teeth yes but it 999 00:48:55,800 --> 00:48:52,210 it it was ignoring her but it was 1000 00:48:58,650 --> 00:48:55,810 looking at the kids and smiling but and 1001 00:49:00,990 --> 00:48:58,660 they can't saw it but the dad couldn't 1002 00:49:02,910 --> 00:49:01,000 and the kids were like you know dad dad 1003 00:49:06,570 --> 00:49:02,920 look at that look at that as a dad was 1004 00:49:08,550 --> 00:49:06,580 like well I don't see anything he kind 1005 00:49:11,490 --> 00:49:08,560 of took them away and this thing just 1006 00:49:15,660 --> 00:49:11,500 kept you know like edging closer to 1007 00:49:20,030 --> 00:49:15,670 these kids all the while smiling at him 1008 00:49:25,740 --> 00:49:23,220 notice it didn't see that this girl was 1009 00:49:27,960 --> 00:49:25,750 was you know able to see it as well 1010 00:49:29,790 --> 00:49:27,970 yeah would it would it have turned 1011 00:49:38,490 --> 00:49:29,800 around and noticed that she was seeing 1012 00:49:40,470 --> 00:49:38,500 him and you know oh wow I woke up to 1013 00:49:42,660 --> 00:49:40,480 several gray beings in my apart 1014 00:49:45,330 --> 00:49:42,670 at once and you know people always say 1015 00:49:48,240 --> 00:49:45,340 they don't show any expression but oh 1016 00:49:51,000 --> 00:49:48,250 yes they did they they had you know they 1017 00:49:53,820 --> 00:49:51,010 have a slip for the mouth and these 1018 00:49:56,280 --> 00:49:53,830 things all had the Oh like for the mouth 1019 00:49:59,760 --> 00:49:56,290 like oh crap she's up like and they were 1020 00:50:01,740 --> 00:49:59,770 just freezing yeah and there was about 1021 00:50:03,240 --> 00:50:01,750 nine of them and I was walking around 1022 00:50:04,890 --> 00:50:03,250 going what are you guys doing here 1023 00:50:06,510 --> 00:50:04,900 what's going on it was just crazy but 1024 00:50:09,090 --> 00:50:06,520 yeah I've shared that story many times 1025 00:50:11,609 --> 00:50:09,100 but it's it they look shocked 1026 00:50:12,720 --> 00:50:11,619 they look very shocked and I think I was 1027 00:50:17,970 --> 00:50:12,730 more shocked I thought somebody had 1028 00:50:19,440 --> 00:50:17,980 broken my apartment trying to rob me you 1029 00:50:20,940 --> 00:50:19,450 have a more interesting life than I do I 1030 00:50:23,220 --> 00:50:20,950 tell you what we're coming to the top of 1031 00:50:25,050 --> 00:50:23,230 the hour break I guess we'd better have 1032 00:50:29,310 --> 00:50:25,060 that break and we'll be right back with 1033 00:50:30,870 --> 00:50:29,320 Tim Schwartz and Heidi holiday both back 1034 00:50:32,580 --> 00:50:30,880 with Jim Schwartz in the Heidi house I 1035 00:50:34,349 --> 00:50:32,590 want to mention once again conspiracy 1036 00:50:36,930 --> 00:50:34,359 journal calm you need to go to the right 1037 00:50:38,670 --> 00:50:36,940 now and just sign up it's free it comes 1038 00:50:40,740 --> 00:50:38,680 in every Sunday and there's all kinds of 1039 00:50:43,170 --> 00:50:40,750 stuff going on not just UFOs but all 1040 00:50:46,170 --> 00:50:43,180 kinds of things and it's it's just a 1041 00:50:48,210 --> 00:50:46,180 weird world and what was that old saying 1042 00:50:49,620 --> 00:50:48,220 Tim from Ripley's Believe it not the 1043 00:50:54,570 --> 00:50:49,630 truth is stranger than fiction or 1044 00:51:03,599 --> 00:51:00,720 it really is I mean you know I mean holy 1045 00:51:05,280 --> 00:51:03,609 mackerel creatures that look like the 1046 00:51:08,160 --> 00:51:05,290 smilin I'm gonna get the kids and 1047 00:51:09,570 --> 00:51:08,170 everything else I mean my goodness well 1048 00:51:11,670 --> 00:51:09,580 have you had have you come up I know 1049 00:51:13,170 --> 00:51:11,680 this is far afield from UFOs but she's 1050 00:51:14,640 --> 00:51:13,180 kind of alien anyway you haven't come up 1051 00:51:19,130 --> 00:51:14,650 with anything on Hillary Clinton lately 1052 00:51:31,830 --> 00:51:27,590 no I have been going over some 1053 00:51:33,960 --> 00:51:31,840 interesting stories that that Donald 1054 00:51:36,300 --> 00:51:33,970 Trump is a changeling I don't know if 1055 00:51:38,250 --> 00:51:36,310 you know what that is no I've heard of 1056 00:51:40,890 --> 00:51:38,260 the term changeling but what is it true 1057 00:51:46,400 --> 00:51:40,900 oh do tell Tim let's talk about Trump 1058 00:51:50,310 --> 00:51:46,410 the changelings a changeling is where 1059 00:51:52,730 --> 00:51:50,320 when when somebody is is a baby you know 1060 00:51:56,870 --> 00:51:52,740 like the the wee folk will 1061 00:52:02,359 --> 00:51:56,880 come in and steal the baby and leave one 1062 00:52:05,030 --> 00:52:02,369 of their own kind in it's a place so so 1063 00:52:07,730 --> 00:52:05,040 the the story goes is that that's that's 1064 00:52:10,040 --> 00:52:07,740 what's happened to Trump that the real 1065 00:52:12,380 --> 00:52:10,050 Trump was taken away by the wee folk and 1066 00:52:15,350 --> 00:52:12,390 you know like this this sentence they're 1067 00:52:16,580 --> 00:52:15,360 called trolls right so Trump Trump the 1068 00:52:20,750 --> 00:52:16,590 troll that sounds right 1069 00:52:23,980 --> 00:52:20,760 trumpet roll was and you know the and of 1070 00:52:26,960 --> 00:52:23,990 course the the the changeling baby is 1071 00:52:28,760 --> 00:52:26,970 will look like the one that was left 1072 00:52:32,230 --> 00:52:28,770 behind but the personality will be 1073 00:52:36,920 --> 00:52:32,240 different usually you know like nasty 1074 00:52:39,080 --> 00:52:36,930 you know money-grubbing and this you 1075 00:52:39,710 --> 00:52:39,090 know with you know step over their own 1076 00:52:47,660 --> 00:52:39,720 mother 1077 00:52:49,520 --> 00:52:47,670 you know for themselves is there any can 1078 00:52:52,190 --> 00:52:49,530 we sprinkle holy water will that get the 1079 00:52:56,410 --> 00:52:52,200 changeling out no usually you know now 1080 00:52:59,930 --> 00:52:56,420 in say like a scotch and and Welch 1081 00:53:04,340 --> 00:52:59,940 mythology the parents would go and like 1082 00:53:09,740 --> 00:53:04,350 beat this child or throw it in the 1083 00:53:11,540 --> 00:53:09,750 fireplace when the thought process was 1084 00:53:15,170 --> 00:53:11,550 is that you know if they go and make 1085 00:53:17,840 --> 00:53:15,180 torture this changeling enough then the 1086 00:53:19,849 --> 00:53:17,850 you know like the the fairies are 1087 00:53:22,220 --> 00:53:19,859 brownies or trolls or whatever cuz you 1088 00:53:25,370 --> 00:53:22,230 know we'll come back and take it away 1089 00:53:29,720 --> 00:53:25,380 and bring the other one back they call 1090 00:53:31,790 --> 00:53:29,730 they're on to us I think the greatest 1091 00:53:33,290 --> 00:53:31,800 likelihood is Trump was just an oath and 1092 00:53:35,090 --> 00:53:33,300 that's all it is it's probably not 1093 00:53:37,010 --> 00:53:35,100 anything supernatural or anything like 1094 00:53:40,609 --> 00:53:37,020 yeah I'd hate to encourage beating up 1095 00:53:47,930 --> 00:53:40,619 anybody but that's uh yeah that's kind 1096 00:53:50,390 --> 00:53:47,940 of yeah well it was always a good excuse 1097 00:53:53,109 --> 00:53:50,400 I suppose when you had a kid that you 1098 00:53:56,540 --> 00:53:53,119 know wasn't behaving themselves or 1099 00:53:59,480 --> 00:53:56,550 conforming to our society at that time 1100 00:54:01,250 --> 00:53:59,490 was thinking that a kid should be so 1101 00:54:03,320 --> 00:54:01,260 they would say oh well this isn't our 1102 00:54:05,580 --> 00:54:03,330 kid this is a changeling you know let's 1103 00:54:07,530 --> 00:54:05,590 get the birch sticks out and beat 1104 00:54:12,090 --> 00:54:07,540 until the fairies come back and take it 1105 00:54:13,680 --> 00:54:12,100 oh well I was thinking in terms of that 1106 00:54:17,550 --> 00:54:13,690 I know there's different little love 1107 00:54:19,680 --> 00:54:17,560 plans to indict Hillary for you know 1108 00:54:22,410 --> 00:54:19,690 different kinds of things and the 1109 00:54:23,850 --> 00:54:22,420 Clintons in general and I didn't know 1110 00:54:25,890 --> 00:54:23,860 what he might have gotten a little bit 1111 00:54:28,560 --> 00:54:25,900 of conspiratorial political stuff going 1112 00:54:32,280 --> 00:54:28,570 on that he'll there's you know and I 1113 00:54:35,130 --> 00:54:32,290 hate to get involved too much in stuff 1114 00:54:38,730 --> 00:54:35,140 like that because it's just it just gets 1115 00:54:42,360 --> 00:54:38,740 crazier and crazier and I you know I 1116 00:54:45,200 --> 00:54:42,370 like a good conspiracy as much as anyone 1117 00:54:48,750 --> 00:54:45,210 but point when you get into this 1118 00:54:50,640 --> 00:54:48,760 partisan politics stuff yeah I mean it's 1119 00:54:52,320 --> 00:54:50,650 just like people will just go well I 1120 00:54:54,690 --> 00:54:52,330 mean okay you have this you have that 1121 00:54:58,230 --> 00:54:54,700 guy you know take a gun over to that 1122 00:55:00,120 --> 00:54:58,240 pizza parlor in Washington and you know 1123 00:55:01,920 --> 00:55:00,130 there we go blow up the place because he 1124 00:55:04,580 --> 00:55:01,930 believed these stories that there were 1125 00:55:08,220 --> 00:55:04,590 you know like underground bunkers of 1126 00:55:11,010 --> 00:55:08,230 satanic pedophiles there yeah I remember 1127 00:55:15,270 --> 00:55:11,020 that yeah that was pretty wild see and 1128 00:55:17,580 --> 00:55:15,280 that works back to a whole limit after 1129 00:55:20,720 --> 00:55:17,590 trip after Drake they're just recovering 1130 00:55:28,410 --> 00:55:24,240 so you know I get talking too much my 1131 00:55:31,830 --> 00:55:28,420 throat will get get scratchy it goes 1132 00:55:36,390 --> 00:55:31,840 from what well if it hurts back to that 1133 00:55:38,730 --> 00:55:36,400 hole you know like 1980s satanic scare 1134 00:55:40,140 --> 00:55:38,740 that swept really you know they started 1135 00:55:41,670 --> 00:55:40,150 here in the United States but it swept 1136 00:55:44,370 --> 00:55:41,680 all over the world and you know 1137 00:55:46,560 --> 00:55:44,380 especially it targeted say like daycare 1138 00:55:50,310 --> 00:55:46,570 centers you know we had these people 1139 00:55:52,800 --> 00:55:50,320 saying that the the owners or the 1140 00:55:56,010 --> 00:55:52,810 workers were taking these children you 1141 00:55:58,740 --> 00:55:56,020 know to caves for satanic you know 1142 00:56:00,810 --> 00:55:58,750 rituals and they were killing babies and 1143 00:56:02,940 --> 00:56:00,820 and you know the devil would come and 1144 00:56:05,760 --> 00:56:02,950 stuff and I mean there were actually 1145 00:56:09,060 --> 00:56:05,770 people all across this country were 1146 00:56:13,860 --> 00:56:09,070 taken to like jury trials and sent away 1147 00:56:15,600 --> 00:56:13,870 to prison for years from these types of 1148 00:56:16,980 --> 00:56:15,610 stories yeah well you know it's kind of 1149 00:56:18,690 --> 00:56:16,990 gotten you know people I think are 1150 00:56:23,219 --> 00:56:18,700 embarrassed about it 1151 00:56:25,950 --> 00:56:23,229 because maybe 10 20 years later hmm you 1152 00:56:27,359 --> 00:56:25,960 know they've been released from jail but 1153 00:56:30,569 --> 00:56:27,369 I thought there was one woman 1154 00:56:34,499 --> 00:56:30,579 gosh war was a Connecticut New Hampshire 1155 00:56:37,219 --> 00:56:34,509 someplace like that as a single woman 1156 00:56:39,809 --> 00:56:37,229 who was running this daycare center and 1157 00:56:43,049 --> 00:56:39,819 she was put away in jail cause she was 1158 00:56:45,089 --> 00:56:43,059 there for like you know 15 years before 1159 00:56:48,420 --> 00:56:45,099 they finally came to their senses and 1160 00:56:51,089 --> 00:56:48,430 and said maybe we were wrong about this 1161 00:56:54,239 --> 00:56:51,099 well and and the you know children who 1162 00:56:57,829 --> 00:56:54,249 had been basically forced to confess or 1163 00:57:02,609 --> 00:56:57,839 not to confess but you know to to say 1164 00:57:04,799 --> 00:57:02,619 well you know you had these doctors and 1165 00:57:07,950 --> 00:57:04,809 I'll put you know quotation marks her in 1166 00:57:10,859 --> 00:57:07,960 a psychologist you know who would 1167 00:57:14,910 --> 00:57:10,869 basically cohurt these stories out of 1168 00:57:17,579 --> 00:57:14,920 these kids you know and what if this 1169 00:57:19,410 --> 00:57:17,589 Dutch banker named Ronald Bernard and 1170 00:57:22,799 --> 00:57:19,420 him speaking of like he was an elite 1171 00:57:26,219 --> 00:57:22,809 businessman who would help crash whole 1172 00:57:28,979 --> 00:57:26,229 governments and economies and he said 1173 00:57:30,900 --> 00:57:28,989 they perform satanic rituals they killed 1174 00:57:35,249 --> 00:57:30,910 children and that's where he drew the 1175 00:57:36,870 --> 00:57:35,259 line oh my gosh Ronald's Bernard I 1176 00:57:38,940 --> 00:57:36,880 should say it's a Dutch banker if you 1177 00:57:41,900 --> 00:57:38,950 google that how posted in the chat room 1178 00:57:47,219 --> 00:57:41,910 - had you heard of that Tim oh yeah yeah 1179 00:57:53,009 --> 00:57:47,229 think of what he's done he's not the 1180 00:57:54,630 --> 00:57:53,019 only one there was the oh my gosh now I 1181 00:57:57,599 --> 00:57:54,640 can't I can't think of a name oh but it 1182 00:58:00,839 --> 00:57:57,609 was an Oklahoman again back in the in 1183 00:58:03,920 --> 00:58:00,849 the 1980s where supposedly there was 1184 00:58:08,420 --> 00:58:03,930 this whole big government-sponsored 1185 00:58:11,910 --> 00:58:08,430 pedophile ring going on that involved 1186 00:58:14,930 --> 00:58:11,920 senators and congressmen another you 1187 00:58:20,039 --> 00:58:14,940 know rich individuals and and they had a 1188 00:58:21,809 --> 00:58:20,049 predilection for boys so there'd be they 1189 00:58:24,630 --> 00:58:21,819 would provide supposedly they would 1190 00:58:26,729 --> 00:58:24,640 provide boys that would kidnapped you 1191 00:58:28,589 --> 00:58:26,739 know from across not only the United 1192 00:58:31,859 --> 00:58:28,599 States but say like Mexico and things 1193 00:58:34,650 --> 00:58:31,869 like that there was actually going to be 1194 00:58:37,499 --> 00:58:34,660 a documentary that had been produced by 1195 00:58:39,749 --> 00:58:37,509 PBS that was going to run but at the 1196 00:58:41,970 --> 00:58:39,759 last minute it was pulled now of course 1197 00:58:43,650 --> 00:58:41,980 all the conspiracy serious you know like 1198 00:58:46,799 --> 00:58:43,660 oh well you know they pulled it you know 1199 00:58:49,589 --> 00:58:46,809 because the the rich elites didn't want 1200 00:58:54,650 --> 00:58:49,599 this information to come out it's it's 1201 00:59:00,749 --> 00:58:59,220 these stories sound so wild so crazy you 1202 00:59:02,579 --> 00:59:00,759 know it's kind of like a lot of these 1203 00:59:04,799 --> 00:59:02,589 you have other stories you know the 1204 00:59:08,249 --> 00:59:04,809 story so it's so wild or so crazy that 1205 00:59:11,730 --> 00:59:08,259 you know you just can't believe them but 1206 00:59:13,620 --> 00:59:11,740 is sometimes something in the back of my 1207 00:59:18,329 --> 00:59:13,630 mind it's just like you know what if 1208 00:59:21,720 --> 00:59:18,339 they're telling the true yeah highly 1209 00:59:23,069 --> 00:59:21,730 doing this and I don't mean like I've 1210 00:59:24,720 --> 00:59:23,079 have any grand knowledge of it 1211 00:59:27,779 --> 00:59:24,730 personally but I have heard it over the 1212 00:59:30,480 --> 00:59:27,789 years from living in this area that and 1213 00:59:33,599 --> 00:59:30,490 this is legit there are whole towns in 1214 00:59:36,470 --> 00:59:33,609 Oklahoma that are actually satanic towns 1215 00:59:40,349 --> 00:59:36,480 I mean I'm talking like the postman the 1216 00:59:42,930 --> 00:59:40,359 guy running the gas station all of it 1217 00:59:45,599 --> 00:59:42,940 and that there are actual that does 1218 00:59:47,220 --> 00:59:45,609 actually exist and I know it sounds like 1219 00:59:49,880 --> 00:59:47,230 a fish story but I have that on good 1220 00:59:53,400 --> 00:59:49,890 authority and they were big into like 1221 00:59:55,440 --> 00:59:53,410 somehow the Satanists were big into what 1222 00:59:57,779 --> 00:59:55,450 production of methamphetamine and stuff 1223 00:59:59,309 --> 00:59:57,789 like that and I mean it's just 1224 01:00:00,900 --> 00:59:59,319 in other words Oklahoma for the most 1225 01:00:02,789 --> 01:00:00,910 part seems pretty down-home ourian 1226 01:00:05,549 --> 01:00:02,799 normal like blake shelton or something 1227 01:00:11,039 --> 01:00:05,559 but there is a there is a seme little 1228 01:00:13,049 --> 01:00:11,049 evil part of it I guess well I mean very 1229 01:00:14,249 --> 01:00:13,059 there is that possibility I mean you you 1230 01:00:16,349 --> 01:00:14,259 know you have a you have a town that 1231 01:00:18,180 --> 01:00:16,359 that's small enough where you get a 1232 01:00:20,249 --> 01:00:18,190 majority in the population who are 1233 01:00:27,390 --> 01:00:20,259 especially when it comes to you know 1234 01:00:31,529 --> 01:00:27,400 like a drugs and as for the satanic part 1235 01:00:33,509 --> 01:00:31,539 of it you know that's to me I have I 1236 01:00:36,690 --> 01:00:33,519 have no problem believing that there are 1237 01:00:39,340 --> 01:00:36,700 people who who believe you know that 1238 01:00:41,920 --> 01:00:39,350 they're Satanists and you know and 1239 01:00:44,640 --> 01:00:41,930 and worship the devil and things like 1240 01:00:47,310 --> 01:00:44,650 that whether or not that there is 1241 01:00:49,240 --> 01:00:47,320 whether or not there is say like an 1242 01:00:51,280 --> 01:00:49,250 organization you know say like a 1243 01:00:53,950 --> 01:00:51,290 worldwide organization where they all 1244 01:00:59,200 --> 01:00:53,960 you know send emails to each other and 1245 01:01:00,750 --> 01:00:59,210 text and you know that I'm not too sure 1246 01:01:04,030 --> 01:01:00,760 about 1247 01:01:07,270 --> 01:01:04,040 believe it or not I've met it I've met 1248 01:01:10,200 --> 01:01:07,280 an ex-military guy who couldn't take the 1249 01:01:12,970 --> 01:01:10,210 orders anymore for performing and 1250 01:01:16,030 --> 01:01:12,980 satanic ritualistic stuff our government 1251 01:01:18,040 --> 01:01:16,040 was doing in this Pamuk amps our 1252 01:01:19,660 --> 01:01:18,050 government and fema camps it's 1253 01:01:23,260 --> 01:01:19,670 disgusting 1254 01:01:26,680 --> 01:01:23,270 fema camps that are actual mean actual 1255 01:01:34,240 --> 01:01:26,690 satanic botanics stuff sacrificing 1256 01:01:38,410 --> 01:01:34,250 people torturing people yeah and you put 1257 01:01:40,480 --> 01:01:38,420 on good authority if if this person that 1258 01:01:42,880 --> 01:01:40,490 I've been in touch with is being 1259 01:01:44,860 --> 01:01:42,890 straight for it and I think he may be so 1260 01:01:47,800 --> 01:01:44,870 yeah that's really disturbing that's 1261 01:01:52,540 --> 01:01:47,810 it's sad ex-military people have the 1262 01:01:53,680 --> 01:01:52,550 best information I tell you military 1263 01:01:56,170 --> 01:01:53,690 people I've never heard anything like 1264 01:01:58,330 --> 01:01:56,180 that Jesse Jesse Ventura on his show 1265 01:02:00,130 --> 01:01:58,340 conspiracy theory did he not go and find 1266 01:02:01,750 --> 01:02:00,140 these FEMA camps popping up all over and 1267 01:02:03,850 --> 01:02:01,760 he said what's going on here and they 1268 01:02:08,410 --> 01:02:03,860 didn't want to give the information did 1269 01:02:11,050 --> 01:02:08,420 you see that one you're talking about 1270 01:02:12,430 --> 01:02:11,060 it's at these camps that this person 1271 01:02:13,870 --> 01:02:12,440 that told me that they're doing these 1272 01:02:18,070 --> 01:02:13,880 things so what do you think is FEMA 1273 01:02:20,110 --> 01:02:18,080 camps popping up well what once again I 1274 01:02:22,660 --> 01:02:20,120 mean you that this is something that I 1275 01:02:26,560 --> 01:02:22,670 mean that's been going around oh my god 1276 01:02:29,290 --> 01:02:26,570 even before say like a Waco and and 1277 01:02:31,180 --> 01:02:29,300 situations like that probably probably 1278 01:02:33,510 --> 01:02:31,190 from the earliest day of the internet 1279 01:02:36,670 --> 01:02:33,520 there was actually a couple of places in 1280 01:02:40,750 --> 01:02:36,680 Indianapolis I remember that were said 1281 01:02:44,230 --> 01:02:40,760 to be emergency FEMA camps one of them 1282 01:02:46,630 --> 01:02:44,240 was like a an old railroad facility that 1283 01:02:47,510 --> 01:02:46,640 was in beach Grove which is a suburb of 1284 01:04:26,630 --> 01:02:47,520 a 1285 01:04:33,320 --> 01:04:26,640 Mexico story going on out of there 1286 01:04:36,440 --> 01:04:33,330 oh well practically every state you know 1287 01:04:40,849 --> 01:04:36,450 has has something unusual weird going on 1288 01:04:43,640 --> 01:04:40,859 you know I did run across an interesting 1289 01:04:47,570 --> 01:04:43,650 you're talking earlier about these game 1290 01:04:51,140 --> 01:04:47,580 cameras and somebody had put up and this 1291 01:04:54,020 --> 01:04:51,150 was outside of Albuquerque and somebody 1292 01:04:58,670 --> 01:04:54,030 had put up a game camera in their 1293 01:05:00,380 --> 01:04:58,680 backyard and tried to catch the deer who 1294 01:05:03,410 --> 01:05:00,390 were coming in 1295 01:05:06,799 --> 01:05:03,420 and that night there was actually there 1296 01:05:08,269 --> 01:05:06,809 was a videotaped a couple of you know 1297 01:05:11,180 --> 01:05:08,279 deer at the yard but then all of a 1298 01:05:13,819 --> 01:05:11,190 sudden from up above this beam of light 1299 01:05:21,500 --> 01:05:13,829 came down but it didn't like you know 1300 01:05:23,930 --> 01:05:21,510 flick on instead it slowly came down it 1301 01:05:28,039 --> 01:05:23,940 was it was the oddest thing that I had 1302 01:05:31,279 --> 01:05:28,049 ever seen before it came halfway down 1303 01:05:35,059 --> 01:05:31,289 into the screen over the area where they 1304 01:05:38,240 --> 01:05:35,069 were these deer were and then just kind 1305 01:05:40,430 --> 01:05:38,250 of slowly went back up again I know what 1306 01:05:46,130 --> 01:05:40,440 that was that was Scottie not giving it 1307 01:05:47,720 --> 01:05:46,140 all she's got I will read one of the 1308 01:05:49,759 --> 01:05:47,730 reasons I said that is you know of 1309 01:05:52,130 --> 01:05:49,769 course I used to go to Vegas a lot yeah 1310 01:05:55,730 --> 01:05:52,140 and years passed and we drew sometimes 1311 01:05:58,640 --> 01:05:55,740 we used to drive out there and it had 1312 01:06:00,500 --> 01:05:58,650 the most exotic feel to it now there's 1313 01:06:03,589 --> 01:06:00,510 two places in the country that that have 1314 01:06:05,299 --> 01:06:03,599 exotic feels but like like South 1315 01:06:06,920 --> 01:06:05,309 Georgia's you driving up the coast you 1316 01:06:10,370 --> 01:06:06,930 know from Savannah upwards it you know 1317 01:06:12,650 --> 01:06:10,380 it's kind of very wide open spaces very 1318 01:06:15,319 --> 01:06:12,660 few people but but there's nothing that 1319 01:06:17,299 --> 01:06:15,329 was exotic is its world New Mexico that 1320 01:06:20,269 --> 01:06:17,309 just I mean anything could happen out 1321 01:06:22,039 --> 01:06:20,279 there be out there I mean I knew this 1322 01:06:23,539 --> 01:06:22,049 one woman years ago she's a pretty 1323 01:06:26,029 --> 01:06:23,549 credible witness I might have told this 1324 01:06:28,130 --> 01:06:26,039 story before but she and her daughter 1325 01:06:31,759 --> 01:06:28,140 were driving along a lonesome Highway 1326 01:06:35,630 --> 01:06:31,769 out there and they're going about 60 you 1327 01:06:37,609 --> 01:06:35,640 know moonlit night and all that and they 1328 01:06:40,099 --> 01:06:37,619 see a Kyle what looks like a wolf 1329 01:06:41,569 --> 01:06:40,109 chasing the sideways you know right to 1330 01:06:44,089 --> 01:06:41,579 the right of the car keeping pace with 1331 01:06:45,769 --> 01:06:44,099 the car they're going 60 and it went on 1332 01:06:48,710 --> 01:06:45,779 for like two minutes which is way 1333 01:06:51,349 --> 01:06:48,720 further than a wolf good news yikes 1334 01:06:54,349 --> 01:06:51,359 and and the daughter was in the 1335 01:06:56,450 --> 01:06:54,359 passenger side and the the creature 1336 01:06:58,009 --> 01:06:56,460 clunked against her side of the car both 1337 01:07:00,769 --> 01:06:58,019 of them screamed and everything else and 1338 01:07:03,200 --> 01:07:00,779 the man I want to go on but what I'm 1339 01:07:05,450 --> 01:07:03,210 saying that a cheetah can go 70 miles an 1340 01:07:09,499 --> 01:07:05,460 hour but I think Tim it's for 20 or 30 1341 01:07:11,569 --> 01:07:09,509 seconds and that's it and that you know 1342 01:07:13,760 --> 01:07:11,579 then it gets winded and that's it but 1343 01:07:15,410 --> 01:07:13,770 there's no record of any wolves 1344 01:07:17,300 --> 01:07:15,420 with being able to go 60 miles an hour 1345 01:07:20,560 --> 01:07:17,310 for two or three minutes that's just not 1346 01:07:23,300 --> 01:07:20,570 in anything we've ever been exposed to 1347 01:07:25,700 --> 01:07:23,310 whatever the hell whatever creature it 1348 01:07:28,550 --> 01:07:25,710 was was damn exotic creature 1349 01:07:30,500 --> 01:07:28,560 we'll see what what you just described 1350 01:07:32,930 --> 01:07:30,510 though this is something that a lot of 1351 01:07:36,350 --> 01:07:32,940 witnesses when they see some kind of 1352 01:07:39,770 --> 01:07:36,360 cryptid creature this is reported quite 1353 01:07:41,420 --> 01:07:39,780 often that they'll either try to drive 1354 01:07:44,090 --> 01:07:41,430 away or they're already in the process 1355 01:07:45,680 --> 01:07:44,100 of driving and whatever it is that 1356 01:07:48,830 --> 01:07:45,690 they're seeing is keeping pace with the 1357 01:07:52,300 --> 01:07:48,840 car and you know they're like six miles 1358 01:07:54,860 --> 01:07:52,310 an hour and whatever is after them is 1359 01:07:56,480 --> 01:07:54,870 keeping up right alongside you know 1360 01:07:58,130 --> 01:07:56,490 close enough a lot of times it's able to 1361 01:07:59,990 --> 01:07:58,140 like bang onto the wooden you know like 1362 01:08:02,720 --> 01:08:00,000 the passenger or draw like in this case 1363 01:08:04,700 --> 01:08:02,730 yeah that's like a common cartoon or 1364 01:08:07,430 --> 01:08:04,710 comic where dogs chase cars so maybe 1365 01:08:10,100 --> 01:08:07,440 these wolves can't help it you know I 1366 01:08:12,290 --> 01:08:10,110 knew a lady who got interested in the 1367 01:08:14,720 --> 01:08:12,300 whole UFO alien topic and Bigfoot 1368 01:08:17,690 --> 01:08:14,730 because she was in Mexico at the beach 1369 01:08:21,230 --> 01:08:17,700 in a car talking with her friend and all 1370 01:08:23,809 --> 01:08:21,240 of a sudden a Bigfoot came and peered 1371 01:08:26,269 --> 01:08:23,819 inside the car and put his hands up over 1372 01:08:29,990 --> 01:08:26,279 its face while it was looking in you 1373 01:08:31,730 --> 01:08:30,000 know like peeking in she believed in a 1374 01:08:33,440 --> 01:08:31,740 Bigfoot and then it just walked away 1375 01:08:35,000 --> 01:08:33,450 they were so freaked out and like a 1376 01:08:42,079 --> 01:08:35,010 Bigfoot in Mexico on the beach 1377 01:08:44,809 --> 01:08:42,089 interesting it's not david they've been 1378 01:08:47,030 --> 01:08:44,819 reported I think he's like in North 1379 01:08:49,039 --> 01:08:47,040 America every place with the exception 1380 01:08:51,440 --> 01:08:49,049 of Hawaii Hawaii seems about the only 1381 01:08:53,809 --> 01:08:51,450 states you know Mexico in such a state 1382 01:09:00,200 --> 01:08:53,819 but you know a long way to swim I guess 1383 01:09:01,120 --> 01:09:00,210 I guess so all 49 states have had 1384 01:09:10,099 --> 01:09:01,130 Bigfoots 1385 01:09:12,200 --> 01:09:10,109 yes that's that's that's again see we go 1386 01:09:15,800 --> 01:09:12,210 back to this to this whole idea that you 1387 01:09:18,140 --> 01:09:15,810 know are we actually seen all the time 1388 01:09:21,019 --> 01:09:18,150 physical creatures or are we dealing 1389 01:09:24,240 --> 01:09:21,029 with something that is you know not of 1390 01:09:27,519 --> 01:09:24,250 this this world as we is read as we 1391 01:09:28,749 --> 01:09:27,529 have you had anybody contact you saying 1392 01:09:34,439 --> 01:09:28,759 they were part of the secret space 1393 01:09:38,680 --> 01:09:34,449 program I have but I don't believe them 1394 01:09:40,360 --> 01:09:38,690 what is it okay it's it's another one of 1395 01:09:41,950 --> 01:09:40,370 these situations you know and there's a 1396 01:09:43,360 --> 01:09:41,960 couple of guys out there who were saying 1397 01:09:49,079 --> 01:09:43,370 the very same kind of story 1398 01:09:51,760 --> 01:09:49,089 where they were taken as children and 1399 01:09:53,530 --> 01:09:51,770 made part of the secret space program 1400 01:09:55,660 --> 01:09:53,540 usually in the form of say like a 1401 01:10:00,430 --> 01:09:55,670 soldier or guard something like that 1402 01:10:04,229 --> 01:10:00,440 where they will work till say like 1403 01:10:09,850 --> 01:10:04,239 they're in their 20s or 30s and then 1404 01:10:11,410 --> 01:10:09,860 they're taken back through time to when 1405 01:10:19,390 --> 01:10:11,420 they're kids when they're a kid again 1406 01:10:22,419 --> 01:10:19,400 and put back different I was taken by a 1407 01:10:25,570 --> 01:10:22,429 soldier he would babysit him he was a 1408 01:10:27,130 --> 01:10:25,580 neighbor and he would go to the base and 1409 01:10:30,220 --> 01:10:27,140 be taught how to fly planes on a 1410 01:10:32,919 --> 01:10:30,230 simulator and and Witten did this for 1411 01:10:35,140 --> 01:10:32,929 years and then came back with a odd 1412 01:10:37,900 --> 01:10:35,150 memories of things but not much more and 1413 01:10:39,669 --> 01:10:37,910 and then met a guy who said hey don't 1414 01:10:41,590 --> 01:10:39,679 you remember the program we were in and 1415 01:10:43,840 --> 01:10:41,600 we flew to the moon and all this stuff 1416 01:10:46,150 --> 01:10:43,850 and he's like the guy look familiar you 1417 01:10:47,919 --> 01:10:46,160 know it's like whoa there I mean there's 1418 01:10:50,310 --> 01:10:47,929 a lot of this out there it makes you 1419 01:10:52,479 --> 01:10:50,320 wonder though doesn't it a little bit 1420 01:10:54,910 --> 01:10:52,489 and once again it's the same kind of 1421 01:10:57,060 --> 01:10:54,920 story that we've heard from people who 1422 01:11:00,280 --> 01:10:57,070 claim that they have been taken away by 1423 01:11:03,250 --> 01:11:00,290 by extraterrestrials and take him to say 1424 01:11:05,740 --> 01:11:03,260 like a secret underground base and and 1425 01:11:07,780 --> 01:11:05,750 taught him say you know to operate 1426 01:11:11,350 --> 01:11:07,790 machinery or to fly a flight sauce or 1427 01:11:13,720 --> 01:11:11,360 something like that probably 15 years 1428 01:11:15,490 --> 01:11:13,730 ago this guy told me that so as before 1429 01:11:17,470 --> 01:11:15,500 the secret space program stuff came 1430 01:11:19,870 --> 01:11:17,480 forward so that's it just makes you 1431 01:11:21,520 --> 01:11:19,880 wonder I don't know that's it's just 1432 01:11:23,380 --> 01:11:21,530 fascinating and what do you think about 1433 01:11:24,880 --> 01:11:23,390 the missing four one one all the people 1434 01:11:30,150 --> 01:11:24,890 going missing what's your thought on 1435 01:11:35,110 --> 01:11:30,160 that that that's a that's a scary one 1436 01:11:36,260 --> 01:11:35,120 you know I have I have my own ideas but 1437 01:11:38,240 --> 01:11:36,270 of course you know 1438 01:11:41,150 --> 01:11:38,250 as I always say I don't believe in 1439 01:11:42,980 --> 01:11:41,160 anything because if you go and start 1440 01:11:45,650 --> 01:11:42,990 believing in something if you're then 1441 01:11:48,020 --> 01:11:45,660 given contrary information you have a 1442 01:11:50,690 --> 01:11:48,030 hard time than getting rid of your old 1443 01:11:54,110 --> 01:11:50,700 belief patterns so I try to keep my mind 1444 01:11:58,670 --> 01:11:54,120 open to all possibilities not so open 1445 01:12:02,540 --> 01:11:58,680 that my brain falls out but open enough 1446 01:12:04,850 --> 01:12:02,550 that I'm willing to look at really any 1447 01:12:07,540 --> 01:12:04,860 kind of explanation one of the things 1448 01:12:11,240 --> 01:12:07,550 that I will point out is that a lot of 1449 01:12:15,290 --> 01:12:11,250 people especially children who disappear 1450 01:12:18,530 --> 01:12:15,300 and that are found again later a number 1451 01:12:22,810 --> 01:12:18,540 of them report that they were taken say 1452 01:12:28,520 --> 01:12:22,820 like by as I put it like a big bear or 1453 01:12:32,930 --> 01:12:28,530 or a big hairy something so if it's a 1454 01:12:36,110 --> 01:12:32,940 criminal well I mean you think about it 1455 01:12:37,970 --> 01:12:36,120 if Bigfoot if there is a part of the 1456 01:12:40,550 --> 01:12:37,980 Bigfoot phenomena that is a physical 1457 01:12:44,570 --> 01:12:40,560 creature why wouldn't they be 1458 01:12:46,730 --> 01:12:44,580 opportunistic when it comes to eating we 1459 01:12:55,100 --> 01:12:46,740 could be their prison camp for all we 1460 01:12:58,250 --> 01:12:55,110 know well they're somebody who is a 1461 01:13:00,830 --> 01:12:58,260 guest of our show not too long ago was 1462 01:13:02,930 --> 01:13:00,840 talking about they're out there they 1463 01:13:04,910 --> 01:13:02,940 bought a house and the person they 1464 01:13:07,190 --> 01:13:04,920 bought a house from she thought possibly 1465 01:13:09,440 --> 01:13:07,200 could have ended up being a for a while 1466 01:13:12,160 --> 01:13:09,450 one would run she was out on a hike with 1467 01:13:15,350 --> 01:13:12,170 her family and this was a woman I guess 1468 01:13:17,120 --> 01:13:15,360 not her gasps but her landlady who was 1469 01:13:20,300 --> 01:13:17,130 very familiar with the outdoors hiked a 1470 01:13:22,460 --> 01:13:20,310 lot she strangled a little bit behind 1471 01:13:24,440 --> 01:13:22,470 her family and all of a sudden they 1472 01:13:26,810 --> 01:13:24,450 noticed she wasn't there so when they 1473 01:13:30,950 --> 01:13:26,820 docked tracks they found her lying on 1474 01:13:34,520 --> 01:13:30,960 her back she had been hit with a big 1475 01:13:36,470 --> 01:13:34,530 rock yeah just seemed to I mean it was 1476 01:13:37,940 --> 01:13:36,480 just there on the trail and the 1477 01:13:41,120 --> 01:13:37,950 implication was is that somebody had 1478 01:13:44,840 --> 01:13:41,130 thrown it at her but there was nobody 1479 01:13:46,280 --> 01:13:44,850 else around so the speculation is is 1480 01:13:48,650 --> 01:13:46,290 that if they haven't turned back around 1481 01:13:49,700 --> 01:13:48,660 and you know left her there for a few 1482 01:13:52,379 --> 01:13:49,710 minutes 1483 01:13:55,860 --> 01:13:52,389 she'sshe somebody's prey you know did 1484 01:13:57,390 --> 01:13:55,870 somebody log a rocket her and then you 1485 01:13:58,950 --> 01:13:57,400 know when they could just drag her off 1486 01:14:01,620 --> 01:13:58,960 the trail and she'd be gone you know 1487 01:14:05,850 --> 01:14:01,630 another forward one another Bigfoot case 1488 01:14:08,430 --> 01:14:05,860 right guys I guess I guess we better rel 1489 01:14:11,040 --> 01:14:08,440 I guess we better run also announce once 1490 01:14:13,860 --> 01:14:11,050 again Tim's conspiracy girl calm less 1491 01:14:16,200 --> 01:14:13,870 people need to go visit and this radio 1492 01:14:18,930 --> 01:14:16,210 show what when is it on Tim it's 1493 01:14:21,600 --> 01:14:18,940 exploring the bizarre its heard Thursday 1494 01:14:30,810 --> 01:14:21,610 nights at 10 o'clock Eastern on K cor 1495 01:14:32,939 --> 01:14:30,820 radio thank you I always do you take 1496 01:14:33,800 --> 01:14:32,949 care out there yeah yeah good night 1497 01:14:36,810 --> 01:14:33,810 everybody 1498 01:14:40,890 --> 01:14:36,820 well next week we're gonna have a Colts 1499 01:14:43,020 --> 01:14:40,900 show on Colts and be a different kind of 1500 01:14:44,729 --> 01:14:43,030 show when people get trapped up in cults 1501 01:14:47,040 --> 01:14:44,739 and some of the ramifications and all 1502 01:14:49,919 --> 01:14:47,050 these a different subject very cool